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miranda
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GILES
« on: Tuesday 20 October 09 21:09 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi, can anyone tell me how far back we can check in the St Sampson parish records of Cricklade?? or other parishes nearby for that matter.
I have possible ancestry going back to about 1671 or 1690! All a bit hazy but have a little info.
Thnx
Miranda Giles
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Arranroots
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Re: GILES
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 21:20 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Miranda
It looks as though the answer is 1672
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/CrickladeStSampson/index.htm
Unless your GILES family used St Mary's Cricklade, which is just a hop, skip and a jump down the High Street, where the records begin in the 1690s (but they are online!)
http://welcome.to/friendsofstmarys/
Still plenty of GILESes in Cricklade!
Kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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nigelp
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Re: GILES
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 21:38 UTC (UK) » |
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The Bishops' Transcripts for Cricklade St Mary go back to 1605 and for Cricklade St Sampson go back to 1599 at the Wiltshire Records Office, although some years are missing.
Nigel
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miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 10:28 UTC (UK) » |
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oh how exciting. Although not sure when I will be able to go to Wiltshire records office. Thank you for your help.
rgds
Miranda
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miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 13:10 UTC (UK) » |
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Looking for John Giles born c1691 baptised 13/7/1691 Cricklade.
Believe he may have been a reverened at Long newton.
Believe he may have married and elizabeth Estcourt born c 1691 (not sure) at Long Newton.
Is there any other information out there on him? he was my 6x great grandfather.
Believe Elizabeth was possibly gentry! again not confirmed.
John's father was Zacharia but again have no other information on him.
can anyone help as I cant get to wiltshire/cricklade for some time.
thank you.
Miranda
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krisesjoint
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Re: GILES
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 15:24 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Miranda,
I am afraid there seems to be a problem here 
There is a John baptised in Cricklade St Sampson to Zachariah 6 Jan 1691
Siblings
Rebecca 14 Dec 1690
Anne 10 Mar 1694
Mary 7 Dec 1699
William 10 Aug 1701
Looks like this John may have had his first child Zacharias baptised in Cricklade St Sampson 22 Nov 1715
Now this marriage you mention
John GILES Rector = Elizabeth ESTCOURT Gentlewoman took place on the 13 July 1691 at Long Newton, so it cannot be the same person
Entered in the parish register for Ashley
Memorandum of Induction: 27 May 1692 of John GILES Rector of Newton into the Church and Rectory of Ashley by Mr John Scrambler Rector of Crudwell, Wilts and 1692 marriages by me John GILES Rector of Ashley
Cheers Kris 
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miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 15:29 UTC (UK) » |
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AAAh, ok, I will look at my info again, maybe I have got confused! It seems quite easy to get confused over dates and information etc. Thank you for that. I will post back here when I have looked into it more.
cheers Kris
Miranda 
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miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 16:39 UTC (UK) » |
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I am going back to 1846 and starting with charles Giles b c1846 m to Mary Tyler b c1842 and then I will work my way back again. I guess I need to get hold of parish records at some point.
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krisesjoint
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Re: GILES
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 October 09 00:35 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Miranda,
This is how I see the line leading back to Zachariah
Charles GILES 20 Sep 1846 parents Jacob and Elizabeth
parents marriage
Jacob GILES = Elizabeth BOUKER 28 Sep 1835
Jacob GILES 24 July 1814 parents John and Ann
parents marriage
John GILES = Ann GEE 13 Sep 1807
John GILES 7 Dec 1785 parents Zachariah and Mary
parents marriage
Zachariah GILES = Mary ROGERS 6 Jul 1783
Zackary GILES 2 Sep 1757 parents John and Elizabeth
John GILES 28 Oct 1733 father John
John GILES 6 Jan 1691 father Zachariah
Cheers Kris
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krisesjoint
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Re: GILES
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 October 09 01:15 UTC (UK) » |
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If this is right I am not seeing a connection to the Rev. Of course there may be a connection prior to this time but he is not a direct ancestor by the look of this. The Rev was married the same year as John was born to Zachariah.
There is a marriage licence bond looks interesting - but a few years after John's birth. It does not mention he is widowed. I wonder if this may be a late marriage - often preferable with the upper class to ensure the woman is fertile before the marriage, or if it may even be a second marriage. (there is a five year gap in the baptisms I have found)
GYLES Zachery Yeoman of Cricklade and STRATFORD Ann of Cricklade 30 July 1698 - marriage to take place at Inglesham. Bondsman William Strange - Tiler of Cricklade.
Unfortunately I don't see the marriage listed at Inglesham
also this one I will mention just in case as my lot jump about between Purton and Cricklade
John GILES Yeoman of Purton and Anne OSBOURNE spinster of Rodbourne Cheney 3 Nov 1715. Bondsman John King gentleman of South Masdon
Cheers Kris
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miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 October 09 09:42 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Kris, thanx for that.
I can confirm that my Charles Giles's was 20 in 1866 (Dec 25th) when he married Mary Ann Tyler who was 21. Charles' father is George Giles.
Chalres' son is also called George and he married Harriet Mills in 1890.
Chris are you on genes reunited? I have my family tree on there, I could send you a pm so you can access it. May help.
thnx Miranda
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miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 October 09 09:49 UTC (UK) » |
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Just an extra piece of info, I have just found a copy of George Giles' birth cert. he was born 13th Sept 1867, Father Charles Giles (Collier) and mother Mary Ann Giles (formerly Tyler). Registered on the 8th October 1867.
I know that is definitely correct as the family often talked about them. Hope this helps further!
cheers Miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 October 09 10:25 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Miranda,
Thats what I get for jumping in without really looking. I missed that one. 
I discounted the one born in 1850 due to the 1866 marriage
This looks like he must be yours.
GILES Charles was baptised 21 Feb 1847 Cricklade St Sampson parents George and Martha
GILES George = BARNES Martha 15 Oct 1832
maybe - GILES George 9 Dec 1799 parents Zachery and Mary (Listed earlier)
No, I don't have GR
Cheers Kris
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miranda
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Re: GILES
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 October 09 10:35 UTC (UK) » |
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Thats ok.  It does get complicated I find. I also find it harder doing my own tree than other peoples! 
Martha Barnes - that's brill, I didnt have her surname listed for some reason.
Thank you so much for all your help with this.
Miranda :-)
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