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Topic: Hall/Stewart help please. (Read 600 times)
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hallmark
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The names is Dave!!
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I have the marriage of Thomas Hall, (Irish) age 23, to Eliza Jane Stewart, (Irish) age 24, at St Mary's Presbyterian Church, Toronto on 15 January 1858, (York County). The Stewarts and Halls were from Monaghan Ireland.
After that nothing!
Can anyone advise on (a) Where to look to try and find when they arrived in Canada? and (b) Where to look for births for Thomas and Eliza please?
Another snippet is the marriage of Eliza Jane Stewart's brother William James Stewart also in York county on 7 June 1860.
So I have my Thomas Hall, son of Matthew Hall and Hannah Lyons and 4 other names..Eliza Jane Stewart, William James Stewart, their father John Stewart and their mother Elizabeth Martin.
William James Stewart married Ph(o)ebe Adams, daughter of George Adams and Ruth Manillock (Manllock).
I would be very grateful for help on tracing Thomas and Eliza Jane, thank you.
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Hall family, Tyrone and Monaghan..Swan/n family also and a pile of others too! Seems everyone is related to each other....Stewart, Longmoore, Wright...
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J.J.
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Can't seem to see them in 1881, although I found one in U.S. but the Thomas says born N.Y.
Also didn't spot so far in 1891...but likely an age out or spelling, or they are using middle names or pet names
There is a death for a George James Hall-1934 with mother as Lizzie but I don't have access to help rule it out.... 
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If you, or your local library, subscribe to www.ancestry.ca , you will find the complete 1871 families there. I am not sure which other version of ancestry include all of this.
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ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot, Westminster Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea & NL
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER - lightermen
MAXWELL - lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot.borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Co.Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol, London
WW1 internments
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J.J.
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hallmark, I need to confirm something...do you know for a fact that all these people were born in Ireland?
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hallmark
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Yes, both were born in Ireland.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/presby58.htm shows the marriage and confirms mine were from Ireland.
The marriage was in St Mary's Presbyterian church on 15 Jan 1858.
to JJ, thank you.......There is another Thomas and Eliza Jane Hall that I have found records for but they were from Co. Cavan and had a grocery business. I have found records for them but they are not mine. These lived 14. 15th St, New Toronto. A George James Hall died there 2nd Dec 1934. This couple were in Ireland at least until 1875 so it is not my couple!
The only other possibility at moment is a death record for a Thomas Hall, King Street, Oshawa, Ontario 6 June 1902 (Cert 019132).
To polarbear; thank you......Unfortunately all I have is the marriage so hoping to find any births which would give me a "family unit" to look up in various census etc.
If you see something on Ancestry matching these details, they are mine as I put them there but no hints so far there.
The marriage was on line but not births so I suppose the logical thing to do is write to the church to see if they have any birth records for this couple.
Eliza Jane Stewart's brother William James Stewart also married in this church 7 June 1860.
Thanks everyone for replies and advice.
Regards
Dave Hall.
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Hall family, Tyrone and Monaghan..Swan/n family also and a pile of others too! Seems everyone is related to each other....Stewart, Longmoore, Wright...
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cosmac
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In 1861 in Oshawa, Ontario there is Thomas Hall(24) b. Ire. with wife Alisa (22) b. Upper Canada and son John(1). By 1871 they added daughter Mary and son John is shown as John F. There is a marriage in 1889 for John Franklin Hall, b. 1860 Oshawa s/o Thomas Hall and Eliza Phillips. Eliza Phillips and Thomas Hall s/o John and Sarah Hall married in 1859. I don't think the death in Oshawa is your Thomas Hall.
There is a Thomas and Elizabeth Hall in Downie, Perth but marriages of two of their children show her maiden name to be Marshall.
Nothing positive only exclusions.
Debbie
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J.J.
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Your original query stated that all immigrated...I am thinking they may have moved out of Ontario unless you have proof otherwise...Plus the reason I asked was because you put "Irish" after their names which made it seem as though you weren't sure yourself...
...No sign of any of them by 1881 except her brother...William James Stewart , wife Phoebe & family
Have you eliminated the Thomas & Eliza in "Howick, Huron North, Ont " from the 1881 census?
The available censuses as you can see were every decade between 1851 to 1911
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Same with Canada, all I have is York County wherever that is.
