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bikermickau
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Father born before son?
« on: Wednesday 21 October 09 10:15 UTC (UK) »
1861 Census on Ancestry
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shan42
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 11:51 UTC (UK) »
They also all have different surnames...are you researching the 'father' or the 'son'?
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casalguidi
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 14:13 UTC (UK) »
He appears to be part of a separate household signified by the "/" before his name Huh

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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 14:16 UTC (UK) »
It appears to be a different family, in the household. If you look at the page you will see that each household is separated by // and each family in a household by / and there seems to be a / before his name. It could be he is the son of the housekeeper.
Sorry for the duplication, but there is no warning that a reply has been posted.
Stan
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shan42
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 14:35 UTC (UK) »
Correct me if I'm wrong - but I thought the // was seperate household...? Also he is 'son' and there has to be a head to be related to, which is at the first //  ?
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casalguidi
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 14:46 UTC (UK) »
Each household is given it's own separate schedule.  If you look in the left hand column you will see that Arthur H BOWRY appears on a different schedule to Mr & Mrs PEARSON.  // would mean the end of that property ie. 33 Ashley Crescent thus there were two households (families) living in that property and the head of Arthur BOWRY's household (a parent) was not at home on census night.

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bikermickau
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 15:17 UTC (UK) »
Thank you all,
I did miss it was different schedule.

Mick
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Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Reedy - Ireland to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Bradbury (False name?) - Oxfordshire to Queensland, Australia
shan42
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 20:49 UTC (UK) »
Thank you casalguidi - I am enlightened, I didn't know that!! Cheesy Well that will make a big difference in my searching!
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JustKia
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 October 09 12:01 UTC (UK) »
I don't think it says "son" - it looks more like "sevt" - in other words servant
Which although not part of the initial family would still make his relationship to the head correct, just as the next person's relationship is housekeeper.
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork

Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you?    ***     Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
bikermickau
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 October 09 12:36 UTC (UK) »
I'm fairly sure Arthur H BOWRY says "son"
Other entries on the same page saying "son" are very similar

Joseph BALDERSON in the same household says "serv"

Mick
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Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Mary Jones, Daughter of James and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, married 1883 London to Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Reedy - Ireland to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Bradbury (False name?) - Oxfordshire to Queensland, Australia
JustKia
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Re: Father born before son?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 October 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »
Well, the next thing I'd do is see if this household(s) can be found on a previous or subsequent census and if maybe the ennumerator wrote the age of one or more parties incorrectly.
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork

Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you?    ***     Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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