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hencarrai
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Hello,
I wonder if someone can help.
I am searching for info re Ann & William Davies.
1851 census shows them in Beaufort, Breconshire, with son William (31) and grandson Charles(1). HO107/2490/240/p18
I cannot track them in 1841, but William was apparently born in Breconshire so they should be there in 1841.
Ann & William shown as born in Pembrokeshire, but it seems that they would be in Breconshire in 1820 when William born.
1861 census shows William as 47 which puts them in Brecon in 1814.
RG9/4218/44/p33
Any help much appreciated.
:)Rob
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osprey
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Re: Davies
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 16:22 UTC (UK) » |
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the reference you've given has a Davies family with son Thomas, not William
so in 1841, this would seem to be the family
Beaufort Square, Llangattock HO107/1366/14 folio 43 pg 23
William Davies 40 miner N
Ann 50 N
Thomas 20 miner Y
/William Williams 20 miner N
Mary Lewis 25 miner N
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N = not born in county, Y = born in county.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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shirl100
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Re: Davies
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 16:39 UTC (UK) » |
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Still struggling trying to track them down in 1841, just in case anyone else is hunting for the family, their son aged 31 on the 1851 census was named Thomas not William.
Shirl
PS Well done Osprey
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osprey
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Re: Davies
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 16:40 UTC (UK) » |
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possible baptism transcribed here in Llangattock Brecs for Thomas in 1819 and a possible sibling Lewis in 1823
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/monprts.htm
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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osprey
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Re: Davies
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 16:41 UTC (UK) » |
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can't spot Lewis later though ...
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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hencarrai
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Re: Davies
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 October 09 10:30 UTC (UK) » |
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Thanks Osprey & Shirl,
sorry about the confusion, just testing to see if you were awake 
Shows that my brain is not in control of my fingers.
All your info looks good Osprey.
I wonder if it's possible to find birth / baptism of Charles (1850?)?
1851 census shows him as Thomas' son, but no sign of his mother.
Thanks for your help,
Rob
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osprey
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Re: Davies
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 October 09 18:36 UTC (UK) » |
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to be accurate, the census shows him as a grandson of the head. He might not be the son of Thomas, though. Thomas is enumerated as unmarried in 1851 & 1861.
Can't see a baptism for him, but there's this possible birth reg
Charles Davies sept qtr 1849 Crickhowell vol 26 pg 315
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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hencarrai
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Re: Davies
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 October 09 17:04 UTC (UK) » |
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Thanks Osprey,
how about the marriage of Ann & William?
Census says they are both from Pembroke, is it possible to discover if they married before they moved or after moving to Breconshire? I guess they were married prior to Thomas baptism in 1819.
Many thanks for all your help.
Rob
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osprey
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Re: Davies
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 09:18 UTC (UK) » |
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I have marriages in Pembrokeshire from 1813, but not Breconshire. Ann gives her place of birth of Wiston in 1861 and none of the William Davies & Ann marriages take place in that parish. There are a couple of possibles in neighbouring parishes.
3/4/1814 William Davies to Ann Francis in Uzmaston
5/10/1815 William David to Anne Howell in Llawhaden
but the marriage could be earlier or elsewhere. It's guesswork without more info.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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hencarrai
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Re: Davies
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 November 09 15:04 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi guys, I'm back.
I now have copy of birth cert for Charles Davies which shows dob as 24th July 1849 and mother as Margaret Davies of Beaufort Sq, Llangattock . No father shown.
There is no sign of Margaret at Beaufort Sq in 1841 census HO107/1366/14/7/44/p23
nor in 1851 HO107/2490/240/p18
I guess she was old enough in 1841 to be working away (dom serv?)
I wonder is it possible to check parish records to link (or otherwise) Margaret to Ann and William.
Any further help will be much appreciated.
Rob
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osprey
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Re: Davies
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 10:22 UTC (UK) » |
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there's a possible as a female servant in Llangattock HO107/1366/12 folio 15 pg 2. But with nothing to link her to the other family, it's guesswork.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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hencarrai
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Re: Davies
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 15:35 UTC (UK) » |
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Thanks Osprey,
I'll have a look at this.
If I go to Records Office (Brecon I assume), do you think I could find birth or baptism for Margaret, and maybe even marriage of William and Ann in parish records.
Many thanks,
Hencarrai
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osprey
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Re: Davies
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 23:12 UTC (UK) » |
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I would have thought the couple were more likely to have married in Pembrokeshire. You need to know, or have a good idea of, which parish to search in before you start. Searching parish records can take ages, especially if you're looking for a common name like Davies.
The record office is in Llandrindod Wells
http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=647
You need to make an appointment anyway, so ask them before travelling.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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hencarrai
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Re: Davies
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 November 09 10:25 UTC (UK) » |
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Ok, thanks Osprey.
I guess the Davies line will have to be on hold until the weather changes.
A trip to 'Llan'dod' might be a pleasant option in the spring.
Thanks for all your help.
Hencarrai
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