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1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« on: Thursday 22 October 09 05:43 UTC (UK) »

Hello from New Zealand,

Can anyone tell me the name of a  Pub in Oulton Place, Chester,1851?  It seemed to be on the corner of Oulton Place and George Street.

MY GGGGgrandfather, James Green b 1801 Bedford Leigh, Lancs is living here in 1851. His  Occupation" Clock Maker and Publican."

I  have done Census address searches  1851 to 1871 but the Pub's name does not appear.

Have also tried to google the address and year, have exhausted my limited options for searching from NZ!

Any clues or information will be gratefully accepted!
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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 October 09 06:09 UTC (UK) »

There's one that may be it, still open, called 'The Ship Victory'.     If that's not the one it's very close. 
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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 October 09 22:55 UTC (UK) »

Oulton Place, doesn't seem to exist today,I have been through lots of websites about chester.The only place it is mentioned is in a book held in Halton Library.

http://www2.halton.gov.uk/content/tourismandleisure/libraries/haltonlibraries/haltonlea/?a=5441
They have an on-line question form.May be they can help

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 October 09 05:23 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley

Thanks for your help folks.  "The Ship Victory" Looks very close; I will ask the Halton Library for more information, and go from there.

Haere Mai from New Zealand!


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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:34 UTC (UK) »

Yes, Oulton Place is gone, as have a lot of other streets.  Part of the car park is what was the old cattle market by Cow Lane Bridge, the old drovers' route. 
there may have been a little pub in Oulton Place, but it was a very small street. 
(addition)  From what you say, 'it was on the corner of Oulton St and George St', it sounds very likely to be the Ship Victory, which is on a corner.
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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 October 09 09:43 UTC (UK) »

Hello there,

This area of Chester has changed dramatically since 1851 and I suspect there may have been more pubs around there then.

The old trade directories of Chester would give you precise information. Also, there is the Chester Heritage and History Centre which might be able to assist.

http://www.cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk/leisure_culture_and_tourism/heritage/chester_history_and_heritage.aspx

E-Mail is as follows: chh@cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 October 09 10:55 UTC (UK) »

Good Morning sue
I dont know if this picture on the corner of George street is the same George street.Thought i would send it anyway
http://www.chesterwalls.info/gallery/george.html

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 October 09 11:33 UTC (UK) »

The black and white picture place is a wonderful site.   You can spend hours on it
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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 October 09 14:16 UTC (UK) »

They have photos of Oulton Place and George Street on the Image Bank.

http://chesterimagebank.org.uk/index.php

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 23 October 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »

Another site has details of the lost pubs of Chester.

http://www.chesterwalls.info/oldpubs2.html

It has pubs in George Street as follows:

The Shepherd's Arms, number 87 George St.
The Market Tavern, number 67 George St.
The Royal George, number 31 George St.
The Sign of the Board in Wellington St, off George St.

I think it could have been the Royal George as this stands on what I recall is the corner of Oulton Place. Does anyone else agree? I am sure this stood in Chester until not all that long ago.

The street/trade directories would give you the full facts.

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 23 October 09 14:45 UTC (UK) »

Sue
I decided to go to the library and look through the many books on Chester they have,of course i got waylaid looking at all the lovely old photos of Chester Roll Eyes
However i went back to the chester trade directories 1850 and it just gives  Under "beer houses" .James Green. George Street,Under the surnames for green it says the same.
In the Chester Directory 1864 under street names George Street " from upper Northgate street to Brooke Street" It gives the side roads and lanes as  you walk down George street (What I call the off roads)so it says

"Here is Oulton Place"
Boardman Mrs Elizabeth,beer retailer
Etherington John, Shopkeeper
Victory Inn,Robert knowles.

Don't know if thats any help or not, I didn't find any more reference to Oulton Place but Chester library are will probably have more years than ours does.

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 October 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 26 October 09 23:22 UTC (UK) »

Let us know if you have any luck with Halton Library

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Re: 1851 Chester Pub Oulton Place/George Street?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 October 09 07:14 UTC (UK) »

 Cheesy

Thank you everyone for your amazing help and interest in my Chester pub questions.

It looks as if "The R"oyal George or The Victory/ Ship Victory" are the most likely two.  I will continue to research and will re post any more discoveries.  The photo sites for Chester are fantastic!

Cheers everyone,

From a wet and windy "spring" in NZ, Sue.
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