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johnP-bedford
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..& Mrs Reardon said he has a brother somewhere..
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James Charles Partridge born 1835 Bedfordshire, Eng – came out to Australia around 1850 -1853, don’t know where he landed but (according to a member's submission on the IGI) married Mary Ann Hatfield 20 March 1854 Caledonian Church, Inverbrackie, S.A . Aust. – He died in Broken Hill New South Wales, Aust on 2 June 1919.
Can anyone find me shippimg list records as to when/where he actually arrived, or confirm his marriage - and would that tell me his father ? Trying to find him in UK prior to his emigration.
regards John Partridge, Bedford
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« Last Edit: Saturday 24 October 09 06:19 UTC (UK) by johnP-bedford »
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukPartridge - North Beds; Peterborough Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts Clement - Croydon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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krisesjoint
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Hi John,
Sorry fathers not listed.
PARTRIDGE James 19 status and father not recorded = HATFIELD Mary Ann 17 status father not recorded 20 Mar 1854 Caledonian Church Inverbrackie Dist Ade 18 82
James may have arrived in SA in aboard the CATHERINE 26 May 1851 although age does not agree. I don't see another James arriving in SA
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/catherine1851.htm
Cheers Kris 
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sparrett
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Hi
Adding to Kris' information above.
The Catherine departed 9/2/1851 from Liverpool via Plymouth. Captain was M. Flett.
Arrived Port Adelaide 26/5/1851
The JAMES PARTRIDGE , aged 20 was listed as being from BEDFORD.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1851Catherine.htm
Sue
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krisesjoint
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Nothing in the BISA - clearly only listed through the immigration record.
PARTRIDGE James born b about 1831 Bedfordshire arrived 1851 aboard the CATHERINE 0ccupation Labourer
I would have suggested NSW death certificates as they are a wonderful source of information but it seems the parentage was unknown to the reporter if this is him......mmm aged 94
PARTRIDGE James died 1919 Broken Hill aged 94 years
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm
Cheers Kris
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krisesjoint
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Births in SA
Parents listed as James PARTRIDGE and Mary Ann HATFIELD unless otherwise indicated.
PARTRIDGE Rachel 13 Nov 1854 unrecorded Dist Ade 5 56
PARTRIDGE Elizabeth Mary Ann 13 May 1856 Happy Valley nr Woodside Dist Onk 6 400
PARTRIDGE Susan 27 Aug 1858 Woodside Dist Nai 14 373
PARTRIDGE Juddy 25 Feb 1859 Tiers Dist Nai 18 153
PARTRIDGE Maria Jane Elizabeth 19 July 1861 Nr Mitchell Flat Thiers Dist Nai 23 138 (Mother Marion)
PARTRIDGE Sarah Ann 18 Sep 1867 Kooringa Dist Bur 57 525
PARTRIDGE Henry William 12 May 1871 Kooringa Dist Bur 95 46
PARTRIDGE Susan Jemima 11 Dec 1873 Kooringa Dist Bur 129 590
PARTRIDGE James Samuel John 21 Mar 1877 Kooringa Dist Bur 182 3
Cheers Kris
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krisesjoint
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two infant Deaths
PARTRIDGE Susan 28 Aug 1859 aged 1 day Woodside Dist Nai 881 res Woodside
PARTRIDGE Juddy 25 Feb 1860 aged 1 day Thiers Dist Nai 11 181 res Thiers
I do note that a middle name Charles has not been provided in any record I have found. He is just James.
Cheers Kris
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tropicalj
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http://www.brokenhill.net.au/Cem.php
He is buried in the Broken Hill cemetery in the Catholic section.
You may find further information for this James Patterson from an obituary in the local paper.
Jenn
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krisesjoint
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Ooh now I notice a second BISA Entry (Information contained in the BISA is derived from many sources including submitted information.)
PARTRIDGE James Charles born about 1835 Bedfordshire England died 2 Jun 1919 Broken Hill NSW arrived 1845 departed for NSW 1910 0ccupation Farmer, Stonemason residence Kooringa religion RC married 1854 Inverbrackie SA Mary Ann nee HATFIELD - her parents were Joseph and Rachel nee DAVIS born 1836 Woodside SA died 19 Oct 1903 Broken Hill NSW children Eliz M. 1855, Mary J. 1861, Sophia M. 1863, Sarah A. 1866, Henry Wm 1871-1942, Susan Jemima MURDOCH 1873-1940 Jas Saml 1877-1877
This looks like young James death - another move
PARTRIDGE James 17 Oct 1877 aged 7 months Laura Dist Cla 83 129 Res Laura
Cheers Kris
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krisesjoint
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Hi John,
My apologies  Just noticed I entered Mary Ann's age at marriage as 27. She was 17.
As to the death entry for James I suspect the person did not know much about him. No parents names etc. Seems when Mary passed the informant knew her age and parents names. So they have gone from being close in age at marriage - She dies 1903 aged 67 (pretty good match) He dies 1919 aged 94 ( I don't think so) Probably a pity he did not pass before his wife - may have been more information provided. NSW Certs are often a very good source of information.
I had a bit of a look for James in Bedford the other day and didn't have any luck. Hope you have more luck than I did. I thought I had him - mother Susan which I liked as James seemed to like the name giving it to two daughters but alas the chap I had in mind was still in Bedford in 1851 so not him.
Good Luck
Cheers Kris
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judb
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Hi John
Following on from your extra info I thought I'd have an explore although you probably have all of this.
It certainly sounds as though some or all of these chaps could have met, some at the gaol or at the workhouse. I can see possibilites in the 1841 census, for each of them (a James Dorrington indexed as Darrington and living at Roxton - 2 miles from Great Barford) all within 10 miles of Bedford, and all around 15 years old (remembering that ages in the 1841 were rounded) and all ag labs - many of them listed at farms with no relatives, which is, I would have thought, another pointer to them being in the workhouse later.
And yes, there was plenty of encouragement for labourers etc to come to Australia.
I see a Levi Mayes reg Wellingborough June qr1849 who could be the child with William and Mary Ma(o)yes. I see a marriage, reg Bedford for William Mayes with Mary Lamb on the same page - Dec qr 1847, which fits your information and is on IGI also at Souldrop. (Just trying to get it in my head!)
I wonder if someone with access to BISA might be able to find some of these people which may give us more clues.
As for the John/James conundrum - it sounds plausible that it is the same chap.
Just another possible:
1841 census shows a James Partridge BiC living at Eaton Socon listed as aged 15, ag lab, with a family surname Squire. Eaton Socon is now in Cambs but is only 5 miles from Great Barton, and was in Beds in 1841.
Enjoy your day at the record office!
Judith
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