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newbe_nz
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WAITE family help please
« on: Friday 23 October 09 07:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi There,

I am trying to find more info on this family. I have just had an email from a second cousin of mine  who is Sarah Ann Waite’s granddaughter.

She does not know much about them at all.

This is what we have so far

Sarah Ann WAITE was born 3 August 1876 in Christchurch and married William George THOMPSON January 1900

Sarah had two brothers. William WAITE was born 1879 and Joseph Auckland WAITE was born 1885. Their parents were  Joseph Mandel WAITE and Mary FISHER  according to Sarah’s Marriage certificate.

All 3 children were born in New Zealand. I have checked the Church Card index at Christchurch Library and found nothing on this family.

I have not been able to find anything on her brother or parents all and need some help in where to look next

Thank you for your help as this is all I know so far.

I know it is not much to go on. I have also looked at Papers Past as well and do not see anything there at the moment.

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newbe,

I have seen Mandell (2 'l's ) Waite often, because I too am interested in a Waite family.  I wonder if a brother might be Edward Mandell Waite, died 1956 born 1872 and (? erroneously recorded in the register as Edward Maund - easy to see that Mandel might look like Maund when handwritten).

I will see what else I have collected in the past.

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newbe,

Wonder if someone mistranscribed "Mandel" as Manuel  ?

The NZSG holds a certificate for Joseph Manuel Waite.


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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:32 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that KHP,

The only other person in my tree with Mandel in there name is Henry Thompson born 1900. He is William and Sarah's son.

Newbe

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:40 UTC (UK) »

Newbe,

Looks like the certificate is the birth of Edward Manuel Waite for 22 March 1872 Smiley

Place is Christchurch Grin

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:48 UTC (UK) »

Could be same family but not sure

I would need to post away to get it right KHP?

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:50 UTC (UK) »

Buried at Broomfield Parish Church


Feb-04 1904 ; Joseph Mandell WAITE of Wigton Union Workhouse ; 71
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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:52 UTC (UK) »

Newbe,

You can request from the website, email  the address at the back of the magazine or do it slow mail.


Doesn't cost you anything, only a stamp for snail

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:54 UTC (UK) »

Certificates are only snail mail

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 23 October 09 07:59 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that KHP and Bren as well

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 23 October 09 08:01 UTC (UK) »


you can request up to 6 at a time - not bad for the price of 2 50c stamps.
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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 October 09 08:02 UTC (UK) »

Certificates are only snail mail

Bren


Has it always been like that ...... I requested one and got it through email four weeks ago.

My Apologies.  Embarrassed Embarrassed  Senior moment Grin  I was thinking of the pre 1856 marriage collections.


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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 October 09 08:08 UTC (UK) »

yes the "Certificates collection" has always been snail mail, with SAE for return.

Some of the other collections are by email.

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 October 09 08:11 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that Bren,

Will get it done over the long weekend and send it fastpost with the same back.

Thanks for saying it is 6 only at a time as well

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Re: WAITE family help please
« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 October 09 08:19 UTC (UK) »

This is a smail bit I have now from the family

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Grandma Sarah Ann Waite was born in Christchurch on 3rd August, 1876 to Mary Fisher and Joseph Mandell Waite. She was the second and only daughter. She had three brothers, Edward Mandell (born March 1872), William (born February 1879) and Fredrick Sydney (born July 1881). In approx 1883, the family moved to Auckland – Joseph was a cartage man with a horse and cart. They lived in Grey Lynn and they had another baby girl whom they called Clara, however, at age three months, she fell off the table and died. Mary also died in 1885 when Sarah was nine years old. Ted, who was the oldest, had to leave school to help with the family. Ted was 14 and would try and sneak back to school whenever he could) because he loved going to school.

When Sarah was 11 years, in 1887, the family moved to Peria near Kaitaia. This land was given to men to try and populate the rural areas. Father Joseph got 50 acres and Ted got 50 acres – the other boys were not old enough to qualify. Joseph built them a little house and then, with the help of all the boys, set about clearing the virgin bush from the land. Sarah became the mother figure for the family. Soon after Ted and Willie left the north. In 1899, Sarah married William George Thompson whose family also lived at Peria, About this time Joseph left – some say he went to Australia to look for gold, others say he went back to England to find his roots and family monies. He was never heard from again. Sarah and William had five children while they lived at Peria, Harry Mandell (1900), Ivy May (1902), Edith Eileen (1904), Violet Mary (1906) and George Edward (1908). Fred moved into Kaitaia and became a cartage contractor, first with a horse and cart, then he had one of the first trucks that came to the north. William was always drinking and one day he came home drunk and threatened to shoot the family. Sarah put the children in the wardrobe and then fought William for the gun. Then she locked him out of the house. The next day, 11 th August 1911, she sent for her brother Fred to move her and the children into town. Ray and Henry Matthews provided her with a house on the main road between Kaitaia and Awanui. In return, she had to milk their cows and make the cheese for their small cheese factory. Clem Matthews (brother to Henry and Ray) lived in the “big house” next door to Sarah. Theirs was the house that never really got finished. At this time, the eldest child, Harry went to live with Clem Matthews. Harry worked for Clem and Clem sent him to school. The property at Peria was sold at £ 100 for 100 acres. In September, 1912, Fred married Ada Hoskins so Sarah, being kind to her brother, let them have the house and cheese making and she moved, with the four children, to Dunn's farm in Kaitaia and sharemilked for them. The following year, they moved to Hesters farm in Kaitaia and sharemilked for them. In August, 1914, Sarah bought 50 acres in Church Road, Kaitaia. It had a two roomed house on it but was way off the road in a gully, so she had it transported, by horse, up the hill, closer to the road. She had a lean-to build on the back for a kitchen and a window in the front room and a porch built across the front of the house.
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