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Topic: Those impossible SMITHS (Read 176 times)
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redshank
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Society Street in Hunslet
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I'm looking for help with my wife's Smith family in Marylebone.
I have this family in 1841:
1841 census St Marylebone: Eliza Smith 35 Shoe binder Y James 13 Y John 9 Y William 7 Y Edward 4 Y Eliza 3 months Y Reb Moody 60 Shoe binder Y
And again in 1851:
1851 Census Marylebone: 2 York Street, All Souls District James Smith 22 Shoe Maker b Marylebone John brother 18 Shoe Maker " Edward brother 14 Shoe Maker "
Trinity District Eliza Smith mar 49 Shoe Binder London Elizabeth Johnson mar 22 Needle ? London
Eliza says she's married in 1851 but in neither census can I see a husband. John Smith gives his father as Thomas at his marriage to Jane Castle in 1858 and I would expect Thomas to be a shoe or boot maker given the occupation of the rest of the family.
Rebecca Moody also seems to have a place in the family as she's also living next door to John and Jane in 1861, but I haven't yet worked out how she fits in.
Can anyone help me find Thomas, please? Or make a suggestion which might help me move forward with this family?
Many thanks, John
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Kirkland in Derbyshire and Leeds; Francis, Elson, Coxon, Tempest, Wheeldon and Barker in Derbyshire; Cawood/Coward, Richmond, Brier/Brear, (H)Akins, Winterbottom, Nicholson, Mellor, Noble, Atkinson, Moor(e), Sloan(e), Tyson, Amos and Cooper in Yorkshire; Goddard/Godarth in Devon, 17th Regiment and Yorkshire; Hodgkinson and Shrimpton in Bucks; Clewley in Oxfordshire. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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redshank
RootsChat Senior
   
Posts: 262

Society Street in Hunslet
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Hello dilly,
Many thanks for having a look for me - I'm most grateful.
To answer your questions, I don't have the birth certificate for Eliza, but I agree it might be possible to find it. There are four births registered in the first two quarters of 1841 for Elizabeth Smith in Marylebone - no Eliza, I'm afraid. If she was 3 months old when the census was conducted in early June 1841, she should have been born within those quarters. Perhaps the best thing is to send for the certificates with a request that they check for Thomas as father and Eliza as mother.
I don't have Rebecca Moody in 1851 - I suspect you're right and she's mis-spelled or mis-transcribed.
I don't know who Elizabeth Johnson is either, I'm afraid. I have wondered whether she could be a child of Eliza by a previous marriage, especially if Thomas and Eliza married in the gap between Edward in 1837 and Eliza in 1841. If she is Thomas's daughter, then she and James would be twins based on their ages in 1851. However, why isn't Elizabeth with the rest of the family in 1841?
Many thanks for your thoughts, John
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Kirkland in Derbyshire and Leeds; Francis, Elson, Coxon, Tempest, Wheeldon and Barker in Derbyshire; Cawood/Coward, Richmond, Brier/Brear, (H)Akins, Winterbottom, Nicholson, Mellor, Noble, Atkinson, Moor(e), Sloan(e), Tyson, Amos and Cooper in Yorkshire; Goddard/Godarth in Devon, 17th Regiment and Yorkshire; Hodgkinson and Shrimpton in Bucks; Clewley in Oxfordshire. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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