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JohnCrawley
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Hassans in Limavady
« on: Friday 23 October 09 14:58 UTC (UK) »

My grandmother was born in Limavady 09.12.1894 Elizabeth Jane to mother Annie Hassan who lived in 149 Government Cottages Limavady. That's all I know about her time in Limavady and about her mother. A

Anyre there any realtives out there or more about Annie Hssan. I cannot trace Government Cottage either?
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 October 09 15:08 UTC (UK) »

Welcome to Rootschat.
Have you found them in 1911 census yet? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
Where does the address '149 Government Cottages' come from? if not from Elizabeth's birth certificate- what's the address on her birth certificate?
Only mention I could find so far for 'government cottages in Co. Londonderry is this: "One representative expressed the view that the provision of rural housing should not be in estates but in single or double houses, perhaps in the manner of the old government cottages built by the Housing Trust and district councils in the 1950's."
http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/segregat/temple/twopol1.htm
Checked index to civil registration for birth of Elizabeth Hassan but can't see any that seems to fit the name and date.
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 October 09 17:06 UTC (UK) »

John,
        This is all a bit tenuous but I leave it up to you.

According to the 1911 census a widow, Annie Hassan, age 40, was living in the townland of Magheraskeagh in the parish of Aghanloo with 6 0f her 8 children and her single sister Maggie Butcher. I have found a marriage of Anne Butcher to James Hassan in Bellarena RC Church, Magilligan on 31 Oct 1893. The parishes of Aghanloo and Magilligan are next to one another.
   I cannot find Elizabeth Jane in the Census.

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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 October 09 17:40 UTC (UK) »

is this Elizabeth - http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Limavady_Urban/Main/597255/


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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 October 09 08:09 UTC (UK) »

Thanks all so much. What speedy helpful responses.

Shanew - I think the Elizabeth at Main may be my gradmother who if this is her, was in service at the age of 16 (which does fit with a bit of what we know). Government Cottages is still a mystery.

Kingskerswell - that could be Annie but I'm not sure there were that many children.

Agahdowey - great site! I'm reporting back to next week to my mum and her sister and might be back with more questions as we begin to piece this together.
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 October 09 10:06 UTC (UK) »

Earlier questions for you, John-
Where does the address '149 Government Cottages' come from? if not from Elizabeth's birth certificate- what's the address on her birth certificate?
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 October 09 13:08 UTC (UK) »

The adress came from my Mum and Aunt but I'm not sure where they got it from. Will find out in about ten days.
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi, my grandmother was Mary Ann Hassan, she was born in Aghanaloo in around 1900, she was born in the same street as an Annie Hassan who was 40 in 1911, i dont know if they were related, il check with my dad, i wonder if this is your grandmother who maybe was born in aghanaloo or lived there at some point before moving the two miles into limavady?
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 15:19 UTC (UK) »

Welcome to Rootschat, Laura. I think this is your Mary Ann Hassan in townland (not street) of Magheraskeagh in Aghanloo Parish?-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002817978/
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Laura,
         If your Grandmother is the one in the census which Aghadowey has shown then my comments in the post above may very well be your Great Grandparents.

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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 18:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Laura

wow! Another piossible link. I'll put this to my mum and aunt this weekend and se what they remember of where Annie Hassan lived. I'll be fascinated to hear what your dad knows about Annie Hassan.
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 October 09 10:34 UTC (UK) »

I wasnt thinking yesterday, Hassan was my grandmothers married name. She married my grandfather Robert Hassan who was born in 1906 in Artikelly. However i cant find any mention of him or his father on the census, his father was James Hassan, there is mention of a James Hassan of 13 years of age. Dad says if they werent in the house on the night of the census their names wouldnt have been recorded. This Annie Hassan of Aghanaloo therefore is my great grandmother, my father knew she had a large family but a few of them died young, but Robert was the oldest and had brothers called Isaac and Thomas and a sister Bella and Elizabeth otherwise known as Lissie who moved to Scotland in her early life. I wonder is this your relation? They lived in one of the labourers cottages which were otherwise known as government cottages. This is so interesting, the picture of the census was amazing.
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 October 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »

Laura,
         Annie is described as a widow therefore James Senior is dead. Robert age 14, is possibly the one living with a farmer called Joseph McCully in Myroe and working as a farm servant. The age of James Jun. is probably about right as later generations are often confused about birth years. 

Regards           

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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:08 UTC (UK) »

You're right, thanks for that its really helpful.
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Re: Hassans in Limavady
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:16 UTC (UK) »

Laura,
          These may take you back a further generation.

Annie Butcher was born 6 Sept 1871 in Bellarena to Robert Butcher and Mary Ann Kane who married on 14 Nov 1870 in Bellarena R. C. Church.
Her brothers look like David born 10 Dec 1872
                                   Thomas born 11 Nov 1874
                                   Joseph born 15 Dec 1877.

Regards                                     
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