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dettori28
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Earl Schafer
« on: Saturday 24 October 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Everyone,

Looking for any information on Earl Schafer born Dec 1901 Illinois & possibly died San Diego. California 1981.

The 1930 US Fed Census has him living with his brother-in-law Joseph Hope in Los Angeles.

He is described as an auto-dealer - public garage.  So not sure if it is possible to trace information along these lines.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thank You.
Sandra
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 October 09 14:52 UTC (UK) »

In case this might be Earl
Directory for Richmond, California for 1937
L Earl Schafer.  Employed by Ford Motor Company.  Address was (h)2316 Brooks Avenue.

I wonder if this person is related
R A Schaffer.  He was employed by Ford Motor Company.  (R)Oakland.

Richmond is located northwest of San Francisco (which is quite a distance from Los Angeles).
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 October 09 14:58 UTC (UK) »

In case you do not have this information:
Earl is on the 1920 census with the spelling Schaffer.  Parents were supposedly born in Illinois (not Germany and New York, as is stated in 1930).
In 1900, they are listed as Schefer, father born Germany, mother born Illinois.
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 October 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Lisa - the 1937 could be him.  His brother-in-law Joseph Hope & his brother Robert worked at the Richmond No2 Shipyard. Contra Costa. California & lived at 507 Adam Street. Albany. Alameda. California.
Earl's father I believe to be Louis Schafer born in Germany 1863 and arrived in USA 1883 or 1885. Married in 1889. No trace of Louis or Ada after 1910 though.

The R A Schafer does not ring any bells, as far as I know Earl had a brother William who may have died before 1910 & a half brother Claude Fetter.  Can't trace his father Louis before 1900.

Many Thanks.
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 October 09 16:18 UTC (UK) »

I know you are looking for Earl, but this might be Addie:
Cook County index for deaths
Adelia Schafer died April 10, 1917 in Cook County, Illinois.  No age given.  The archive repository location: Cook County Clerk, Chicago, Illinois. 
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 October 09 16:47 UTC (UK) »

I do not see Addie and Louis on the Illinois marriage index.  I've tried every combination of words.  Since Addie/Ada was apparently married prior to her marriage with Louis, it makes it a bit more difficult to find her.
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 October 09 17:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lisa.

Wow, that is great. Any information on the Hope/Schafer family is helpful. Thank you so much - I had expected to find both Louis & Ada Mary between 1910 - 1920.  I feel sure that parts of the family followed each other around - Earl was with Joseph Hope & Della in 1930 & it could be him that worked for Ford in Richmond in 1937 while Joseph was at Richmond No2 Shipyard.  Then Joseph appears in Lake. Oregon as a death in 1963 & a few years later Joseph's son John Robert Hope died in 1966 at Paisley. Klamath. Also John Robert's wife Maxine Phana in 1970. Those 3 are buried at Sunset Park in Lake View. Oregon - the plots are all close together but no sign of Della Shafer/Ice/Hope.  Although there is an entry for 1987 Wapato. Yakima. Washington that could be almost right for her. Also Robert Hope died Klamath 31 Dec 1962 - although I cannot find any plot references for him at Sunset Park.

I have asked once before for information in trying to trace Maxine Phana Hope - I have no maiden name for her but a few clues.  She was born in Florence June 1, 1918 and was married March 14, 1943, at Klamath Agency to John Robert Hope who proceeded her in death August 12, 1966.
Surviving are two sisters, Georgia V Neece, Coos Bay, and Edna L. Pedersen, Everett, Wash.
Maxine Hope was a member of the Episcopal Church, Fremont Chapter of the Order of Eastern Star, Paisley: Zuleima Temple, Daughters of the Nile; Lake County Nile Club; Lake County Cow Belles; and had been active with her late husband in work with the Lake County Roundup Association.
She had lived in Paisley since 1959 until she moved to Klamath Falls to reside.
The Rev. Merle Benson officiated at the services which were under the direction of Ousley-Osterman Mortuary.
Pallbearers were Louis and Van Withers, Al Rickert, Bob Davis, Jeremiah O'Leary and Rex Griffith.

Many Thanks for all your help and valuable time.

Best Wishes.
Sandra
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 October 09 17:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lisa,

Messages crossed then. I think Addie was Ada Mary Swires born 1864 Illinois and married Albert E Fetter 11 March 1884 Illinois.  They had 2 children and then must have divorced because she marries Louis in 1889 (supposedly) I have just seen a death reference for Arthur of 1920 Quincy. Adams. Illinois

BW
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 24 October 09 19:51 UTC (UK) »

On Maxine Hope - her burial is listed on www.findagrave.com.  There is an option to request a photo of the gravestone, so you might want to do that to see if there is anyone else buried with her.

On the Oregon Death Index, there is a Georgia Van Neece born 20 Mar. 1909 and died 6 Jul. 1986 in Coos Co.  The Social Sec. Death Index has her last residence as Coos Bay.  There is a private member tree on Ancestry that has a Georgia Jean Vandenburgh, AKA Georgia V. Neece, born 1909 in Florence, Oregon.  It's possible that the Van on the death index was an abbreviated version of her middle/maiden name.
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 24 October 09 20:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi shellyesq.

Thank you very much, I have just seen the entry you mention.  The Vandenburg/Vanderburg line goes back to abt 1600.
On the 1920 census it would make Maxine (alias Phunolphen !!) born 1912 which is a slight discrepancy but weighing up the other information on the 2 sisters, that would tie in.  I have yet to find her in 1930, the spelling looks as if it will be an issue here.
Sister Georgia looks as if she married twice.
Thank you all very much - you are amazing.
If anyone finds Earl Schafer I would appreciate any more information on him.
Certainly been a very fruitful day.

Thanks A Million.
Sandra
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Lisa in California
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 24 October 09 20:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sandra:
This doesn't help with your search, but it's a bit of history...I mentioned your Earl's occupation as "auto dealer, public garage" to my husband, as I thought it was a bit odd having a dealership in a garage.

Hubby has been in the car business a long time, and said that a lot of dealers got their start in garages, he even heard of someone who started his business in the middle (literally) of a general store.

I'll have a look around again.   Wink
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 October 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »

Found a marriage for an Earl L Schafer, but it was in 1969 (he was age 67).  Sending information by pm, for privacy reasons.
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 24 October 09 21:39 UTC (UK) »

California voter registrations
Earl Lee Schafer, Los Angeles, 4872 Eldred Street, "tp(?) bldr".   Huh

1932, Earl L Schafer was living at 5510 S Western Avenue.  No occupation given on this form.

In 1934, an Earl L Schafer was living at 1032 Masonic Avenue, Albany, California.  Mechanic.  Right under his name and at the same address
Mrs. Margaret M. Schafer, housewife.

In 1936 they are still in Albany, but at 1493 Sonoma Avneue.  He is listed as auto mechanic, she is homemaker.
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 24 October 09 21:43 UTC (UK) »

1938 they are at: 931 Alston Way, Berkeley?  He is a machinist.

1942 (the next publication date), only Earl is listed, still at the above address, same occupation.

Having trouble finding him after 1942, even though the index is dated 1900-1968.
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Re: Earl Schafer
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 24 October 09 21:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lisa,

Wow, your truly amazing.  That must be him - Joseph Hope & his brother were also in Albany in 1941.

So that must be a first marriage for him - no other Schafer relative called Margaret at the moment.

Also see a Maxine Vandenburgh listed in City Directory for Klamath 1938 - 1940.  Thought it was an unusual name but there are others listed for various places.

Yes. Got the site you referred to.

Thank you again for your hard work.

Best Wishes.
Sandra
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