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dannibaggaley
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1901 lookup, Riches
« on: Sunday 25 October 09 14:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

I am looking for 3 brothers and their mother in 1901, so far no trace

Ethelinda (in 1891, her name is Ester) Riches b. 1841 in Tasburgh, Depwade. Have traced her up til 1891 and have found her death in 1920 in Norwich but nothing in between

She had 4 Illigitimate children as she never married. I have traced her daughter Laura Riches b. 1868, but she had 3 boys who I cant find either!!

William b. 1871 (cant find him in 1891 either!!) , Alfred b. 1873 and Frederick b. 1877 (have found these on 1891) All children born in Henstead according to bmd and Saxlingham according to ancestry records

Any help would be lovely

Danielle
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dannibaggaley
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 October 09 14:17 UTC (UK) »

If I could just add to the first post,

I cant find Ethelinda's brother Henry at all past 1841. He was born 1827 in Tasburgh to Robert and Charlotte Riches

Any help would be great, thanks
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 October 09 14:29 UTC (UK) »



Ethelinda (in 1891, her name is Ester) Riches b. 1841 in Tasburgh, Depwade. Have traced her up til 1891 and have found her death in 1920 in Norwich but nothing in between


If you look for Ethel Kicker in 1901, I believe she is a servant, aged 62.

RG13/1853; Folio 71, Page 5.

See what you think anyway ??  Smiley

Kind regards,

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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 October 09 14:35 UTC (UK) »

yes,  i believe that is her now, many thanks  Grin
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 October 09 14:39 UTC (UK) »






William b. 1871 (cant find him in 1891 either!!)


Could this be William Riches, aged 28 and living in Norwich with Helen his wife ??

RG13/1839, Folio 51, Page 44.
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 October 09 14:42 UTC (UK) »

I found that record this morning but there is no viable marriage record on free bmd, if I remember rightly all the places and dates were out!!
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 October 09 14:53 UTC (UK) »






Have you checked how many people by the name of William Riches were born in that area during that time scale Danielle ??

I'm trying to, but FreeBMD is on a go slow !!  Undecided Undecided
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 October 09 15:04 UTC (UK) »






Got there in the end, one on 1871 and the other in 1876 ??

The one I gave claims to be born in Saxlingham, 1873 ??  Undecided
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 October 09 16:09 UTC (UK) »



Here's Frederick Pinches, with his wife Emma :

RG13/1834, Folio 44, Page 1

Frederick b. 1877 (have found these on 1891) All children born in Henstead according to bmd and Saxlingham according to ancestry records

You didn't mention Frederick, according to the 1891 census was born in Swainsthorpe, not Saxlingham !  Cry Grin

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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 October 09 16:12 UTC (UK) »




Here's their marriage :

Marriage, Jun qtr 1900 
Emma Elizabeth Cousins       
Frederick Riches   
Norwich, Vol 4b, page 289
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 25 October 09 16:24 UTC (UK) »




With very many thanks to Gadget for 1911 information which has enabled these to be found, this appears to be Alfred's marriage in 1905 :

Marriage, Dec. qtr 1905
Ellen Louisa Bane        
Alfred Riches     
Norwich, Vol 4b, page 344

It might be worth your while to check the later census Danielle !!  Wink
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 October 09 16:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Thanks for all your hard work and I will check them all out

Sorry for the mix up with Frederick, I'm sure on an earlier census it said Saxlingham  Huh

Many thanks

Danielle  Cheesy

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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 October 09 17:12 UTC (UK) »





Danielle, did you notice when you looked at the 1901 census results for William Riches and Helen, there's a big difference between the ages of the children.

Helen, their daughter was aged 8, baby William was only 11 months ??

I can't find a marriage either for this couple, but that was going on the approximate birth year of their eldest child, but neither can I find a birth for their daughter. Unless she wasn't William's child .. and was registered in another name ??

Wonder if there's a later date for their marriage, if this makes sense ??
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 25 October 09 22:38 UTC (UK) »

Don't like doing these cross thread posting links but to avoid any duplications:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,108071.0.html


Gadget  Undecided
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Re: 1901 lookup, Riches
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 October 09 06:56 UTC (UK) »

I did notice the age gap betweeen the children but I like I said, I couldn't find a viable marriage record so paid no attention really!!  Roll Eyes
I will look into the possibility of a previous marriage


Many thanks  Smiley
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