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Cesca
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Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« on: Sunday 25 October 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Looking for any information on Rev Charles Carroll who was resident in Tipperary in 1865.  I believe he may have been from Armagh originally.  In 1865 he owned a house in College Street Armagh which he leased out to St John's Masonic Lodge, Armagh.  don't know what parish it was but i know he was Church of Ireland minister.  can anyone give me any suggestions  please as to where i find out any more info.
thanks Cesca  Smiley
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Ealey, Middlesex and London
Turberville, Worcester and Newport South Wales
Fitzgerald, Pontypool, South Wales
Day, Somerset and Pontypool, South Wales
Mundy or Munday Pontypool, South Wales
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 October 09 18:13 UTC (UK) »

not certain if this is the same person but found a few mentions of a Charles Carroll (CofI) in the established church ecclesiastical section of Thom's directory :

1863 - Charles Carroll, A.B. curate of Oola, Diocese of Emly, post town Tipperary

1877/80/84/94 - Charles Carroll, A.B. Clashmore, Diocese of Lismore

he does not appear in any of the earlier editions.


Shane
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 October 09 14:08 UTC (UK) »

Shane, very many thanks for that inflo.  i will do some research in both the areas mentioned.  brii Smiley
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Ealey, Middlesex and London
Turberville, Worcester and Newport South Wales
Fitzgerald, Pontypool, South Wales
Day, Somerset and Pontypool, South Wales
Mundy or Munday Pontypool, South Wales
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 October 09 17:50 UTC (UK) »

not certain if this is the same person but found a few mentions of a Charles Carroll (CofI) in the established church ecclesiastical section of Thom's directory :

1863 - Charles Carroll, A.B. curate of Oola, Diocese of Emly, post town Tipperary

1877/80/84/94 - Charles Carroll, A.B. Clashmore, Diocese of Lismore

he does not appear in any of the earlier editions.


Shane

Shane, have spent most of today trying to find out about Rev Charles Carroll when he was in Oola and also Clashmore .......... but not a thing.  Did it happen to mention in Thom's which parish he was at.  Also have tried to look at Thom's myself, but I can't access it.  have also been on internet looking for list of C o I churches in Oola and Clashmore but without success.  i have no idea which parish i am looking for really.  cannot find any listings/trade directories which may give  residents in both places around the time he was there. any thoughts or suggestions as always would be great.  my head's getting a bit sore now .... not to mention my fingers! Wink
thanks any snippets of advice  .... wonderful!
cheers Cesca  Smiley
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Carroll, Armagh later Market Harborough
Dunn, Belbroughton Worcs, Kinver and Bilston Staffs
Ealey, Middlesex and London
Turberville, Worcester and Newport South Wales
Fitzgerald, Pontypool, South Wales
Day, Somerset and Pontypool, South Wales
Mundy or Munday Pontypool, South Wales
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 October 09 17:59 UTC (UK) »

The Thom's listing I posted is all the information I found, I'll double check to see if there is anything else in another section of the directory. The directory is Dublin based, so only includes basic details for areas in other parts of Ireland.

There are some extracts from an 1860 edition on the Library Ireland site, but I dont think any of the ecclesiastical directory is included. The only complete Thom's available online that I know of is an 1850's edition - I believe it's on google books. I have a few of the original books



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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 October 09 18:42 UTC (UK) »

I assume this is the bit you have about the Masons

"The lodge had written to the Rev. Charles Carroll in Tipperary, with reference to renting a house in College Street, Armagh, ‘for general Masonic purposes’. He consented to taking lease of the house for £15 per annum and keeping the property in good repair. The W.M. Bro. William Cochrane was appointed as a trustee and a special meeting with lodge 409 and 623 on the 21st September 1865, the Worshipful masters from the three Lodges along with 19 other members unanimously resolved that the offer be taken with the rent commencing on 1st November. Two members of each lodge were appointed to ‘have full power to arrange all matters of detail with respect to carrying out the forgoing proposal’.
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 October 09 19:03 UTC (UK) »

Another little snippet:

July 23, 1859
(From the Irish Ecclesiastical Gazette)
APPOINTMENTS
Diocese of Cashel--Rev. John A. LONG, to the curacy of Killea, Dunmore East; Rev. Charles CARROLL, to the curacy of Templetuohy; Rev. T. W. S. COLLIS, to the curacy of Ballysheehan; Rev. H. H. MADDENT, A.M., to the chancellorship of Cashel.
Hope it helps.

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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 14:42 UTC (UK) »

thanks shane for your help once more
:)Cesca
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Carroll, Armagh later Market Harborough
Dunn, Belbroughton Worcs, Kinver and Bilston Staffs
Ealey, Middlesex and London
Turberville, Worcester and Newport South Wales
Fitzgerald, Pontypool, South Wales
Day, Somerset and Pontypool, South Wales
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 14:48 UTC (UK) »

hi corisande, yes that is the article i was referring to.  i have emailed  the lodge in the hope that they may have some archived records which may give a little more information about Rev Charles Carroll.  shall have to wait and see.  in the meantime have been searching the web for anything more on him i can find and have come up with mention of him in the university of dublin calendar for 1894 where he is shown in the section 'subscribers to graduates' tercentenary memorial' as being a benefactor to Trinity college in the sum of £5.5s.0d.  he is shown as Carrol, Rev. Charles M.D.  i wonder how much that is now!

any thoughts about the entry regarding the masons lodge and charles carroll?
thanks for your info
cheers
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Carroll, Armagh later Market Harborough
Dunn, Belbroughton Worcs, Kinver and Bilston Staffs
Ealey, Middlesex and London
Turberville, Worcester and Newport South Wales
Fitzgerald, Pontypool, South Wales
Day, Somerset and Pontypool, South Wales
Mundy or Munday Pontypool, South Wales
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 14:52 UTC (UK) »

oaks and acorns he there, thanks for your 'snippet'  where is Templetuohy, it says it is in the diocese of Cashel - forgive my ignorance regarding this, but I have no idea.  will see if i can find anything out about him in this area (if I can find it!)
thanks
Smiley Cesca
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Carroll, Armagh later Market Harborough
Dunn, Belbroughton Worcs, Kinver and Bilston Staffs
Ealey, Middlesex and London
Turberville, Worcester and Newport South Wales
Fitzgerald, Pontypool, South Wales
Day, Somerset and Pontypool, South Wales
Mundy or Munday Pontypool, South Wales
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:50 UTC (UK) »

Templetuohy is near Moyne and a little further from Thurles

You can get it on Google maps
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Re: Rev Charles Carroll C of E Tipperary resident in 1865
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 13:53 UTC (UK) »

Templetuohy is near Moyne and a little further from Thurles

You can get it on Google maps

Thanks for that, will have a look
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Carroll, Armagh later Market Harborough
Dunn, Belbroughton Worcs, Kinver and Bilston Staffs
Ealey, Middlesex and London
Turberville, Worcester and Newport South Wales
Fitzgerald, Pontypool, South Wales
Day, Somerset and Pontypool, South Wales
Mundy or Munday Pontypool, South Wales
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