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bdconnel
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Interested in 1851 and 1861 (and possibly 1871) census listings for Philip Henry Jones, born Newtown, Montgomery about 1841. Father is Henry Jones, grocer. Mother's name unknown. Philip Henry Jones became a hosier and draper and settled down in Oswestry, Shropshire to practice his profession. In 1871 he married Jessie Maria Halfyard in Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire and the couple then lived in Oswestry for many years. All their children were born in Oswestry. My own attempts to search the above censuses have failed. Any help greatly appreciated.
Cheers 
Bryan
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Tati
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Hi Bryan,
There's a good match on the 1841 census but the adult living with him is called Philip
1841
HO107/1440/1 41 10
Newtown, Montgomeryshire
Lady Well Street
Philip Jones, 20, Shoe
Ann, 20, Bonnet Maker
Philip Henry, 9? mo
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John Atkinson, 20, Shoe m Journeyman
(all born in county)
I can see only one matching birth registration
Phillip Henry Jones
Sep 1840 Newtown 27 122
so I'd definitely keep this boy in mind eventhough there's no Henry in the household (maybe Philip was in fact Henry Philip?)
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bdconnel
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Hi Tati,
Thanks once again for the info and your time, trouble and kindness in searching for it. Can you check the references for the 1841 and 1851 censuses as the reference searches I am doing in Findmypast.com result in a no-show. Where are you searching to find this info?
Cheers
Bryan
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Tati
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Details:
1851
HO107/2497 292 2
Newtown Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomeryshire
Commercial St
Phillip Jones, head, 30, Master Shoemaker (4 men), b. Llanllwchaiarn
Ann, wife, 31, b. Newtown
Phillip H, son, 10, scholar, b. do.
Ann E, dau, 8, scholar, b. do.
Harriett, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
James M, son, 4, scholar, b. do.
Mary M, dau, 2, b. do.
Ann Powell, mother in law, wid, 67, Nurse, b. do.
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Tati
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1861
RG9/4250 34 16
Newtown, Montgomeryshire
Horse Market
Philip Jones, head, 41, Grocer, b. Llanllwchaiarn
Ann, wife, 42, b. Newtown
James Maurice, son, 14, scholar, b. do.
Griffith Frederick, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Harriett, dau, 16, scholar, b. do.
Mary Mariah?, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Catherine Jane, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
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Tati
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and the son ...
1861
RG9/1883 41 29
Ellesmere, Shropshire
Cross St
Philip H Jones, assistant, 19, Draper's Assistant, b. Montgomerysh Newtown
in the household of John Hampson, Draper and Maltster
1871
RG10/2783 40 19
Oswestry, Shropshire
10 Llwyn Ter
Philip H Jones, head, unm, 30, Hosier, b. Newtown Montgormeryshire
Nobody else in the household
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bdconnel
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Hi Tati,
No, I don't think so, as I have found other Welsh entries. I think it's more to do with the incompleteness of the information available through these sources. What source do you search for this info?
Cheers
Bryan
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