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Jazgran
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Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« on: Monday 26 October 09 16:30 UTC (UK) »

Looking for members of the Douglas family who emigrated from UK to USA in early 1900s.
Harry, his wife Fanny bn. 1877 (nee Broadbent).  Their son Lewis born approx. 1913, and his son (*) born approx. 1943.   

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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 October 09 20:40 UTC (UK) »


I have checked the incoming passenger lists for USA and Canada as well as the US and Canadian Census records and I don't see this family anywhere.  Are there variations on the first names?  Where was Lewis born? and when was Harry born?

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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 October 09 21:31 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for your reply and interest.  I don't know when Harry was born, presumably about the same time as his wife (1877) and in the UK.   Lewis could be Louis I suppose, and I think he was born in the USA approximately 1913.  I suppose Douglas could be spelled Douglass.   Fanny and Lewis visited the family in the UK in the 1920s. so should appear on some kind of passenger lists.   I really have tried hard to find any record of these folk, my 97year old father wonders what became of his cousin Lewis.  The last we heard was that they lived in Providence, Rhode Island in the 1950s.
Sorry I really don't have any more information.   Best wishes.
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jazgran.  Welcome to RootsChat.

I'm not finding the family, yet, in 1930.  You mentioned Rhode Island for the 1950's - is there a chance you know where they lived prior to that, please?
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi again,  no - sorry - no more information about where they may have lived.  Its a mystery, this one!!
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:19 UTC (UK) »

Not a problem - will continue to have a look around.
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:28 UTC (UK) »

I do not have further information about the passenger list; perhaps someone else may be able to help:
Fanny Douglas, born c1878, arriving in the UK in 1924.  Port of arrival was Hull.

They may be further details on the list to determine if she is "your" Fanny.
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I do not see Lewis/Louis travelling to Hull during 1924.
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:33 UTC (UK) »

That Fanny Douglas left from Australia, so it doesn't look like it fits.  She was a cook and going to live in Buckingham, England.
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:35 UTC (UK) »

Thank you, Shelly.  Smiley

This is a difficult family to find.  Huh
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 15:48 UTC (UK) »

Jazgran:

Do you know Harry's occupation, or Lewis' occupation, please?
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Have my answer - Harry was a carpet designer.  Wink

Another question, sorry.  What year were they married, please?  (Assuming you have information about the family, prior to their move to America.)
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 16:45 UTC (UK) »

Jazgran here, thanks for your continued efforts.  I can't find any trace of their marriage here in UK although I have searched the UK and Yorkshire lists.
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 19:03 UTC (UK) »

On the Social Security Index on Family Search, a Louis Douglas B 15 Nov 1905 D Oct 1965 the SS number was issued in Rhode Island. He must belong somehow
No sign of Fanny here, and I did not find them on any census records in Rhode Island, sorry, but my source was incomplete.

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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 14:40 UTC (UK) »

Thanks to all who have been searching on my behalf.  It confirms my feeling that this is a hard family to find.  We know they exist/existed, but then I guess USA is a big place.   Any further information or leads would be appreciated.  Best wishes from Jazgran.
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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 20:35 UTC (UK) »

You say you have looked on the Yorkshire list for a marriage.  Does this mean you know they came from Yorkshire?  Are you sure they married over here?
Were there any other children?

On the UK 1901 census there is a Harry and Fanny Douglas staying at The Grand Hotel Brighton.  Living off their own means.  Harry is 47 from London and Fanny is 38 from Southsea Hants.

There is another Harry and Fanny Douglas in Chatham Kent, but he is a Police Officer from Hounslow.

Can your Father remember anything else about them that might help?

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Re: Douglas family from UK to USA 1900s.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 October 09 09:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sue, thanks for your interest.   Fanny (nee Broadbent) was born in Leeds in 1877.  I do not know of Harry's origins.  My father can't remember if they married in UK, but thinks that Lewis was born in USA.  As far as we know there were no other children.  Last known whereabouts was in the 1950s when Fanny's sister, Lily, visited them and sent us a picture postcard from Providence, Rhode Island, which is still in my possession.  No clues as to address on the card.   It has been said they owned a store/shop in Rhode Island.  My father remembers that Harry was a Carpet Designer.  Lewis had a son born approx. 1943, the only name we remember for him was "Buddy" which I guess is a nickname.  My father, now aged almost 97, is the last of his generation, so there is no other source of information.   Best wishes, Jazgran.
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