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shan42
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Solloway look up required please
« on: Tuesday 27 October 09 22:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi all,
I'm looking for any information on Frederick Solloway born c1822 in Worcestershire, England.
He was convicted aged 14 in 1836 & transported to Van Diemen's Land in 1837.
He arrived on the Frances Charlotte on 15/5/1837 Convict no 66562.

I do not know his parents, siblings or whether he came back to the UK as I can't find any records of him. If he is on a Tasmanian census I'd be grateful for any info.  Thanks Smiley
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 00:28 UTC (UK) »

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON31-1-40,262,1,C,100

You might find something in this digitalised book.
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 00:33 UTC (UK) »



Hi shan42

There are no actual Census returns kept in Australia, so you would have to try and find either a marriage or a death certificate for your man and hope that there is some accurate information regarding his parents on them.  It was quite unusual for a convict to return to the UK, although there are some that did. 

Good Luck

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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 00:55 UTC (UK) »

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2952535?searchTerm=frederick+solloway
this is a link to newspaper article from 1843 showing his name amongst many  who were now granted their crtificates of freedom

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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 00:58 UTC (UK) »



Hi shan42

There are no actual Census returns kept in Australia, so you would have to try and find either a marriage or a death certificate for your man and hope that there is some accurate information regarding his parents on them.  It was quite unusual for a convict to return to the UK, although there are some that did. 

Good Luck

Karenlee



Sorry but this is not actual true there are a few for 1841 mainly scattered about!!!

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=10

Tasmania in particular does have a few,  however he is not showing up  on them

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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 01:01 UTC (UK) »


A little info that might help

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au
The Courier (Hobart,Tasmania)
30/6/1843

NOTICE. No. 152.
Colonial Secretary's Office, 22nd June, 1843.
The periods for which the under-mentioned persons were transported expiring at the date placed
after their respective names, Certificates of their Freedom may be obtained then, or
at any subsequent period, upon application at the Muster Master's Office, Hobart Town,
or at that of a Police Magistrate in the interior :
Frances Charlotte.
Thomas Anderson, 12th July; John Henry Bond,4th ditto; Samuel Barratt, 16th ditto;
Thomas McCormack, 4th ditto; John Gill, 3rd ditto; James  Herkes, 12th ditto;
David Moreton, 30th ditto; James Sparks, 28th ditto; Daniel Smith, 28th ditto;
Frederick Solloway, 16th ditto; John Wilson, 12th ditto.

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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 01:02 UTC (UK) »



Sorry Jenn,

Didn't see you had already posted  Embarrassed

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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 01:29 UTC (UK) »

Thanks everyone..wow that book will take some searching!  Grin

I can't find birth, death or marriage certs for him, only thing that comes up is his criminal record - at least I know he was still alive when his 7 years was up.
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 02:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

As an alternative to Census records, there are some General Musters records. 

1841 General Muster shows your chap as assigned to a Mr G Stewart at North West Bay (Van Diemen's Land, ie Tasmania)...

Cheers  JM
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 02:11 UTC (UK) »

Bit More,

1846 General Muster for your chap supports your info, as it shows him as Frederick Solloway, Tried at Worcester, 1836, sentence 7 years transportation, arrived 1837 on Frances Charlotte, and having a "Free Certificate".

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 02:30 UTC (UK) »

Bit More,

Just to add, re his trial, also tried with him was a 14 year old lad named Samuel Barratt, who Raylen has spotted as receiving his own Certificate of Freedom at same date as Frederick... They were both tried on 16 July 1836, for housebreaking.... the thought occurs to me that perhaps they were cousins.... perhaps some genie clues for Samuel may lead to Frederick's origins too....  Cheers,  JM
I have inserted Raylen's post and snipped it and highlighted Samuel Barratt
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au The Courier (Hobart,Tasmania) 30/6/1843 NOTICE. No. 152.Colonial Secretary's Office, 22nd June, 1843......Certificates of their Freedom may be obtained then, or .....at any subsequent period, upon application at the Muster Master's Office, Hobart Town,or at that of a Police Magistrate in the interior :
Frances Charlotte.
Thomas Anderson, 12th July; ... Samuel Barratt, 16th ditto; .....Frederick Solloway, 16th ditto; ...Raylen

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shan42
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:21 UTC (UK) »

Ooh thankyou justmoi!!!  Cheesy  Yep, that's the one, housebreaking.

Do you know what 'assigned to' means? I haven't come across the name Barratt on my searches, so will have a look at that one - cheers  Smiley
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

"Assigned to"  .... as a convict ..... they were NOT usually locked up in a gaol but were instead "assigned to" various free settlers or in some instances to former convicts....  This meant that your Frederick was sent to Mr Stewart's and he worked for him and Mr Stewart was responsible for providing him food, clothing, lodging etc... 

If you can get to the trial records, you will notice that Frederick Solloway and Samuel Barratt (sometimes spelt as Barrett) were both tried together on the same day for the same offence...  They were transported on the same ship and were discharged together... obtaining their certificate of freedom on the same day as each other...

Cheers, and thanks for your thanks!


With such an unusal surname as SOLLOWAY, it occurs to me that perhaps it was sometimes written as Holloway.... (S and H being quite easy to alter !)
JM
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Re: Solloway look up required please
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 21:18 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for explaining all that... I'm getting a good education about transported prisoners on this board! And thanks for mentioning the potential 'Holloway' too - it never even crossed my mind, as there were Solways, Solerways, Salways etc etc. to contend with too. I'll go and do a bit of homework now  Wink  Cheesy
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