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shaw.shoo
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Defoe Marriage Lookup BC, CANADA
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 02:59 UTC (UK) »

i just couldn't figure where to post this. if this is incorrect area, please forgive me.

Having trouble finding any more info on my grandfather Leo (or Leon) Defoe. He was born 1914 in Revelstoke and died 1983 in Minitonas Manitoba.

His father was Nunzio Defoe born 1882 and died 1921. Mother was Jeanie born 1882. Sister Seraphim born 1908 and brother Celister born 1910 as shown on 1911 Census for Revelstoke.

I looked for marriage of Nunzio and Jeannie but could not find anything.

I was wondering if anyone could find  marriage registration for Nunzio Defoe and Giovannina Maria aka Jeannie which just may show where in Italy he was born. From Jeannie’s obit she was born in San Stefano del Sole Italy Nov 1, 1884. She immigrated in 1897 so obviously came with her parents and was already here before he came.  But I don’t know her surname to trace her immigrating.

I have found that Nunzio b.1882 had another son named Nunzio who became a Roman Catholic priest. He was born 1921 and died 2005.  There was also two daughters Sara (could be Seraphim) and Celesta and a son Edmund who died in 1921 at age 3 (according to BC Death records)

BC Death records also show a Baby Defoe dying Dec 24, 1910 in Revelstoke which could very well be Celister (see top).
Also a daughter Margaret dying in Revelstoke 1919 at age 5 (b.1914).  Just wonder if Margaret could be twin of Leo my grandfather.

There are several other Defoes in the the Revelstoke area and one can only assume that they are connected but until I know more I cannot link them. 

The year of immigration for Nunzio Defoe b.1882 was it looks like 1900 but could be 1904. I looked various shipslists and finally found a record and ships manifest for a Nunzio DeFoe but the birth year is incorrect...tho I could very well be the grandfather of Leo Defoe.

Anything anyone can find to help me would be appreciated!

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Re: Defoe Marriage CANADA
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »

Hello shaw.shoo Smiley

The marriage can be found in the BC Marriage Records with the following spelling......

Nuntio Defeo
Govanina Colacurcio
13 Jun 1907 in Revelstoke

A moderator will probably transfer this request to the Canada Board......there are very kind chatters  Smiley  on that board who regularly offer to look up the BC records for folks.

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Re: Defoe Marriage CANADA
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 October 09 01:35 UTC (UK) »

excellent polarbear....you work miracles cuz i tried but could not find anything. but i was going with Nunzio...so maybe that is why.
now i have a surname for his wife. many many thanks!
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Re: Defoe Marriage CANADA
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 November 09 20:24 UTC (UK) »

as you can see there also were others with the surname or derivatives...
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/07ea/

If you use the modify button and add B.C. lookup to your first topic someone will do that lookup...
which is also in this link for those who are looking...

This might be your bride with parents in 1901...If so you have parents and a date of birth, and the surname of Celeste as that top birth in the link I gave you is Maria's
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=13227&highlight=3
father is on previous page...a Defoe also on page http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=13226
 
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Re: Defoe Marriage CANADA
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 November 09 20:39 UTC (UK) »

http://www.rootschat.com/links/07eb/
The previous page of the 1901 census with the father listed at the bottom of the page.
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Re: Defoe Marriage BC, CANADA
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 02:39 UTC (UK) »

many thanks to you both. i just don't know what i do wrong...i was on automated genealogy but could not find what i wanted. guess i didn't search broad enough.

this is such a great find. now i will try to find when they immigrated.

and all the info on BC Archives....thank you thank you. again...i have been there but did not find all the info you provided. you must have magic fingers.


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Re: Defoe Marriage BC, CANADA
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 04:51 UTC (UK) »

Looking at the census images...Franc says immigrated in 1888, Celestra says 1886
children in 1896...so did they return to Italy and have the chilf
and all naturalized in 1897... ( look at images from censuses for more info...)
( National Registration File of 1940 costs  $ but it might have place of birth for both parents)

Don't forget to add marriage"Lookup" to the subject line...and you can also ask that if they match the census entry if they can also look into the sister's birth...

also let them know if you need the death information for Francesco & Celestra Colacurcio in Revelstoke..
also in above rootschat link reply#3
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Re: Defoe Marriage Lookup BC, CANADA
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 01:03 UTC (UK) »

I can look up the BC registrations for you.  Can you post a list of all the look ups you want?  Or is it just the parents' marriage and the two children's deaths on the Defoe side you're after?

Regards,
Lynwen
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Re: Defoe Marriage Lookup BC, CANADA
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 01:20 UTC (UK) »

hello lemon mallie
Thanks for your kind offer. I am interested in any Defoe births,marriages and deaths in the Revelstoke area.  They are surely related in some manner and by spreading out there is a chance of finding out more information. 

I have been on the BC Registration site myself and have a list of all the Defoe's vital info...I just don't know if or how they are connected to each other.

What i need to do is contact Revelstoke for more information. either the cemetery, funeral home, catholic church, phone directories etc. 

The Colacurcio family found in Revelstoke by JJ is a real bonus. Would you look up that surname also. All that are in that area?

thanks for your assistance.



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Re: Defoe Marriage Lookup BC, CANADA
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 02:00 UTC (UK) »

JJ
it certainly seems as if they went back to Italy to have Angelo, Giovannina and Emlo. but i wonder if you could immigrate in one year, go back to your home country and then return years later and naturalize. it would be so much simpler if the year shown on Census for her immigration was 1896....difficult to read that year. that would make more sense. 

i have a contact in Italy and will try to see if they have some sort of registry system like we have here in Canada.


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« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 November 09 04:24 UTC (UK) »

There are over 40 entries for the Colacurcio and Defoe names in Revelstoke so I don't think I can look them all up.  But here is a start:

Nunzio Defoe marriage
Nuntio was 23 yrs old, born in San Stephano del Sole, employed as a labourer, father Antonio, mother Josephine Pistagrela (??).  He married Govanina, aged 22, father Francesco, mother Celestra Bellardini (??).  Witnesses were Annibale Defeo and this one was really hard to read Antoneth Debbon (??).  They married on 13 Jun 1907 at St Francis Revelstoke.

Baby Defoe
No parents were listed on the registration.  The informant was the undertaker.  The child died of convulsions.

Edmund Defoe
Born on 28 Nov 1917, father Nunzi Defoe, mother Jennie Colarch, father was employed as a Boiler Maker Helper.  He died of Acute Hepatitis and was buried at Revelstoke on 21 Jan 1921.

Nunzio Defoe
Died at Queen Victoria Hospital, regular address 5th Street Revelstoke.  Occupation Boiler Maker Helper, 38yrs old, born Italy.  In city 19yrs, province 19yrs, Canada 19yrs.  Father Antonio, mother Sarah Pisacuta.  Informant was Annieta (??) Defoe, brother.  Cause of death was fractured skill, killed in accident at CPR sheds.  He was buried in Revelstoke on 3 December.

Margaret Defoe
Father's name listed as Jor or Joe.  She was born on 21 Apr 1914 and died of burns.  Buried at the Revelstoke Catholic Cemetery on 5 Sep 1919.

Olympia Defoe
Birth - daughter of Antonio Defoe and Carmela Levro. 

Giovannina Defoe
She was DOA at St Vincents Hospital.  Usual address 7430 Oak Street, widow of Nunzio, born 1 Nov 1884 San Stefano del Sole, father Francesco Colacurcio, mother Celesta Mastroberardino.  Informant son Nunzio John, entombed at the Gardens of Gethsemani, cause of death Acute Pulmonary Edema.

Franceso Colacurcio
Died at Third Street, Revelstoke.  Born 25 Oct 1857 in Italy, occupation merchant.  In city 30yrs, province 34yrs and Canada 41yrs.  Father Angelo, mother Angela Marria.  Informant Emile Colarch, son.  Buried at Revelstoke 20 May 1929.  An inquest was held and cause of death determined to be Myocarditis.

Celesta Colacurcio
Died at Townley Street, Revelstoke.  In city 30yrs, province not listed, Canada 33yrs.  Father Sabino Berardino, mother first name unknown surname Callicano or Gallicano.  Informant was Marian Mina Colacurcio, daughter.  Buried at Revelstoke on 23 Apr 1930.  Cause of death Chronic Nephritis.

I hope this gets you started.  If you need more look ups, you can order the relevant films from BC Archives through your local library.

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Re: Defoe Marriage Lookup BC, CANADA
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 November 09 16:28 UTC (UK) »

Nice of you, Cheesy Lynwen...
There are postings on this site, so that findings aren't duplicated...
http://www.italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Forums/viewtopic/p=102786.html
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Re: Defoe Marriage Lookup BC, CANADA
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 November 09 16:40 UTC (UK) »

lynwen
when you offered to lookup i just figured you would sign on to the archives site. but i can see that you have so much more info so you must have another source.  i should have not assumed and questioned before you did all that work.

too bad i didn't know that, because i too have gone thru all the b/m/d on the archives site and have identified for sure who i know that is of the line i am tracing. those are the ones i would have wanted.

i will check your list again and hopefully they are all there.

many many thanks for your help and i am happy for what you did include.   
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 November 09 17:01 UTC (UK) »

You are very welcome.

The indexes are helpful but please don't overlook the actual registrations as a source of information.  In my completely unbiased opinion  Shocked , the BC registration forms contain a lot more information than many other provinces or countries.  The early b/d/m forms are more limited but you can still pick up lots of clues based on witnesses and informants. 

I see from your profile that you are in BC so you should be able to order the relevant film from BC Archives through your local library free of charge.  Since many of the events took place in the same time period, they might even be on the same film.

As always, the hardest part is reading the handwriting!  I much prefer the typed forms of the 1950s & 60s.   Smiley

Regards,
Lynwen

ps.  I am always available to look up the odd registration.  I just don't have time for 40!
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Re: Defoe Marriage Lookup BC, CANADA
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 November 09 20:51 UTC (UK) »

Lynwen
thank you again so very much. the individuals information you provided were so informative. most clicked with my other info from Census and immigration.
did you have the actual reel for BC Archives to view or did you find this info on the internet?

i shall have to look into the bc archives and see how i can get the reel in I need. shall be lots of fun. i see that some of the Defoes moved away from Revelstoke, to Victoria,Vancouver etc and whether they are related is another thing.

the info you sent me gave me some idea of who is connected to whom.

thanks again so much.
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