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belindy
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John KIDSON
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 05:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi everyone,
My great-aunt has been trying to find the birth of John KIDSON for a very very long time.

She has just turned 80 and I would like to try and find the information for her as a surprise.

We think John KIDSON was born c1808 at Windsor. His parents names are unknown but his father's name might be Thomas GODDARD who owned an inn.
He either attended Eton College as a student or he worked there.
John was a gardener at the Royal Gardens and married Amelia TUCK who was a lace maker for Queen Victoria.
They named their first child Catherine.
They came to NZ in 1842.

My aunt has been in contact with Eton College but they didn't hold any information regarding John's birth.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Sincerely
Belinda
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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:39 UTC (UK) »
There is a Ancestral File for him which states born 1808 Winsor

and a christening date of       3 Aug 1810 but no parents or location  Huh

http://www.familysearch.org/ENG/search/frameset_search.asp

as yet can't pinpoint anything to confirm

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 13:00 UTC (UK) »
Another interesting link for your man

http://www.theprow.org.nz/john-kidson-1808-187/

Sorry if you already have seen this.

Regards Judi
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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 October 09 03:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi Judi,
Was it common for children to be christened and have no parents or location recorded?

In a letter he wrote to Reverend Henry DUPOIS John wrote: Please give my kind love to to my father Thomas GODDARD at the Bull Inn in Pescod Street; he is the only relation I have, tho I dare not wright to him. I must still own him.

We thought John's mother may have been a maid at the Inn but died during childbirth.
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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 October 09 12:12 UTC (UK) »
Here is the 1851 census for the Bull Inn

Charles Beenham     38..Inn keepeer The Bull
Elizabeth Beenham    32
Henry Beenham    7
Alford G Beenham    5
Mary L Beenham    3
Edward H Beenham 2
Infant B Beenham    under 2 Mo
Sarah Goddard 70.............................Widow ..Aunt.. Retired Innkeeper
Samuel Balls    42 Hostler
William Wright    24 Waiter
George Cross    18 Boot cleaner
Elizabeth Mardin 22 Chambermaid
Harriet Cross    15  Housemaid
Ann Atkers    38 Cook
Harriet Daley    51 nurse
Michael Calimer 42 supervisor of excise

Piece: 1695; Folio: 373; Page: 34;
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 October 09 12:17 UTC (UK) »
1861

Charles Beenham     47
Elizabeth Beenham    41
Charles T Beenham    19
Henry Beenham    16
Edmund H Beenham    11
Walter J Beenham    10
Richard Beenham    6
Frances Beenham    4
Sarah Goddard    76...................Widower of Inn Keeper
Ann Herridge    60
John Lane    27
Charlotte Shaw    22
Mary Ann Hetherington    17
George Kent    17
Michael Callahan    60
Thomas Marshall    44

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 October 09 12:33 UTC (UK) »
1841

[b]Thos Goddard  50 Innkeeper not born in county
Sarah Goddard 50 Born in county[/b]
Jane Davis    20
Elizth Tophia    20
Eliza Brooke    20
Henry Taplin    15
Wm Halford    25
Ed Curtis      50
Wm Wallace    50

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 October 09 12:47 UTC (UK) »
I would guess this is their marriage ..still not helping answer the question  Huh

    Sarah Newport  married Thomas Goddard
     Marriage:     26 DEC 1809      Eton, Buckingham, England

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 October 09 12:49 UTC (UK) »
There is a good picture of the Bull Inn on this site

http://www.thamesweb.co.uk/windsor/windsorhistory/index.html

also Sarah Goddard is mentioned.

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:29 UTC (UK) »
another little snippit

From the burials of St John the Baptist New Windsor

1844 Jan 29th Thomas Goddard of Peascod Street aged 53

There are no Kidson burials at all (1750 - 1988) however there was one

1807 Jan 23 John Kidsor son of Charles

which I thought was interesting.

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 October 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »
This looks like John & Amelia in 1841 in Eton,  you probably already have this but just in case


Davis Buildings

John Kidson     30 waterman N
Amelia Kidson    28 N
John Kidson    4  Y
Amelia Kidson    3  Y
Sarah Kidson    1  Y

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 October 09 15:20 UTC (UK) »
Hmm - I've just been looking at the info above,  plus the IGI for Eton Buckinghamshire.  Given that Thomas Goddard was 53 when he died in 1844 he would have been born about 1790/91.  There is a baptism for a Thomas Goddard in 1790 in Eton s/o Thomas & Martha.  This would mean that Thomas was only 17/18 years old when John was conceived (if he was born in 1808).  I very much doubt that Thomas would have been the landlord of the pub at that age,  he may still have been in Eton.  Where did Johns birthplace come from?  could it possibly have been Eton not Windsor?  maybe we are looking in the wrong place.

Undecided

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Re: John KIDSON
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 October 09 05:46 UTC (UK) »
Thank you soooo much!!!

Is there anywhere else that may hold information? Perhaps he was fostered or adopted?
You are right about the ages though. Thomas does seem a bit young to be John's father......


Thank you again for all you advice!!!  Grin
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