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Topic: Look-up Please - Parramatta area between 1861 to 1888 (Read 160 times)
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HillRolfeGarnett
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Hi,
Could anyone please look up, any Garnett families in the Parramatta/Sydney area, between 1861 and 1888, or let me know were I can look.
Any Garnett's in the Parramatta/Sydney Area may give me a lead to find my Ggrandfather George.
I am particularly looking for the birth of George Garnett born 1861 (+/-1 year), his parents and possible siblings. .
I have looked at NSW BDM I have tried all possible variety of spelling and there is only 1 George FW Garnett born 1961 his parent James Garnett and Janet (maiden name Meldrum) - This is definitely not the George that I am looking for, they are a totally different family.
I have George's marriage to Louisa Hill @ Inverell in 1888, all of their children and George's death @ Elsmore (near Inverell) in 1914.
But have no details of his parents or possible siblings, so as we all know I can't go back any further without his birth.
Thanks Susan
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Just Moi
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Hi there,
This could be a bit off the track, but have you considered the following 1861 birth at Parramatta... The index shows the surname has been transcribed as GARRICK, first name George, and parents shown as John T and Janet the reference number is 10962/1861
Many cheers,
JM
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HillRolfeGarnett
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I just had a look @ BDM NSW for deaths of George Garrick result is :
You searched deaths for the given name George and last name garrick (and the mother's given name Janet and the father's given name John) in the years 1861 to 1978
0 - 0 of 0 matches found
Seems there are no deaths for George Garrick how could I tell if this George is mine or not (unsure of what steps to take next pursue this)
Regards Susan
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Just Moi
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Hi Susan,
Perhaps if you think this could be your chap, then it would be sensible to order a transcript of the actual records .... (around $15 or thereabouts)... There's various threads on the Aussie Boards alerting us to discount transcriptions.... I will amend this post with the link shortly.
Edit 1
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html
EDIT 2 (I have used each of the three official transcription agents, and they are each as good as each other, that is they are all very good, but that's Just Moi Opinion)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,410007.0.html
Cheers, JM
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HillRolfeGarnett
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Hi JM,
Sorry I forgot my manners before (thank you for your help)
I don't understand, how I will be able to show that Garrick is Garnett, could the transcript of the actual records show Garnett on it 
I'm not familiar with how to match these spelling variations to get my man (George)
regards Susan
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judb
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Hi Susan and JM,
There is a NSW birth to John and Janet GARRICK in 1859 as well as the child in 1861, which makes it less likely, I would have thought, for two mis-transcriptions - however.......
May I ask how you are sure he was born in NSW? Is this info on his marriage cert? IGI have very few listings in NSW for the surname Garnett and it appears to be more common in Victoria. IGI have a George Grenfell GARNETT b Beechworth Vic 1856 - a VERY long shot, I know but we have all found wrong ages given on certificates. Unfortunately I don't have access to Victorian indexes so have no idea if this is a possible record.
I'm not sure tha this helps at all!
Judith
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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset
MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts
SONE - Hants
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SEAGER - Deptford
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Just Moi
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Yes, if you place your order, there's usually a spot to add a message, when I think that the online NSW index has a spelling mistake, then I mention that in my message and offer a possible alternative.
For example, on one of my forebears, his middle name is JEHU, but the handwriting of the clerk at the Registry office in 1874 seemed to read ISHEW... I mentioned that to the transcription agent and they were able to confirm that it was possible to read it as JEHU... Afterall, all the records were handwritten before typewriters were supplied to the various district offices of the BDM registrars....
Hope that helps.... GARRICK GARNETT correct number of letters.... GAR and then R instead of N ... very very likely.... I instead of E, again very likely.... CK instead of TT .... written in lower case, again likely if the writer did not run the cross stroke of the T in the centre.... And, I seem to recall that GARNETT has been mis-transcribed before....
Tis Just Moi Opinion, but if you are certain he was born 1861 at Ptta, then for around $15 you could establish/confirm his parents full names, date and place of their marriage etc
Cheers, JM
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Just Moi
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Hi Susan and Judith,
That's a very good point that Judith is raising....
Here's the link to the index for Vic births.... Ummm, you can order directly on that link, but I suggest you look first...
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index
JM
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HillRolfeGarnett
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HI Judith
This is what I know:
He was married in 1889 under the name George Garnet NSW BDM # 5330/1889 , Married Louisa Hill @ Inverell usual place of residence Toppers Mountain. Church - CofE
there is no reference to George's parents or birthplace
(signature or witness - not Garnett)
1st born child was call George died a infant.
My grand father was the 2nd born male child called also call George Garnet (born Inverell) NSW BDM # 17092/1890 on my grandfather birth certificate, the informant was George Garnett from Tingha age 29 yrs old (1890-29yrs=1861) birthplace Parramatta.
George born 1861- died 1914 on his death certificate BDM NSW # 014025/1914 - he was aged 53yrs (1914-53=1861) Church - CofE
my grand father was the informant and he stated that George was born Emmaville NSW and his father was also George Garnett, his mothers name unknown.
That make's 3 generations of George, this is generally not unusual but there is a twist - George born 1861 wife's was a twin and the other twin also married a George and the Twins father name was also George - so there seems to be a lot of George in the family
My concern is during time of grief my grandfather may have given the wrong name for Georges father and George born 1861 - father may or may not be call George!!!
Regards Susan
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HillRolfeGarnett
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Hi JM,
I think, I will call a Transcription Agent and have a chat about George, I do need to request a Death cert for an Aunty so I can do that at the same time
Regards Susan
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