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chinacharlie
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The Black Murrays ( of Warrawang)
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 11:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Does anyone know anything or has anyone heard of the 'Black Murrays'?
In 1790s India British Army Officer Lt Col Matthew Murray married an Indian Bride  in Kerala India and they had three children, John, Julia,& James, Matthew returned to Scotland somewhere around the early 1800s with the children and they lived on a country estate called 'Georgefield' nr Langholm.
The cildren were called 'Black Murrays' because of their black hair, black eyes & dark skin which derived from their mother.
The thing is, after researching my own Murray family from the Langholm & Canonbie areas it's looking more and more likely that i might be related to the Black Murrays, after looking at pictures of them one of the most striking similarities is the dark hair,eyes & skin.
I have contacted Murrays in Australia ( incidentally thats where the name Warrawang came from) who are related to the Black Murrays and they agree that there is a strong possibility of a connection after they viewed the pics that i emailed them.
The trouble is i'm having a lot of trouble finding that connection, and i was wondering if anyone might have any ideas of which way i need to go with this.

Kind Regards
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Family romany names of special interest;
LOVERIDGES from Bedfordshire;
SMITHS from Cambridgeshire;
Also the PARKERS and AYRES families.

Also researching;
MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire;
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire;
walterC
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Re: The Black Murrays ( of Warrawang)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:05 UTC (UK) »

Here's an extract from "The Memorials of Langholm Parish" Staplegordon Churchyard:

Died at — Bay, Australia, on the 29th May 1833 ? JESSIE MURRAY the beloved wife of Henry Cox Corfield, Esq., aged 28 years  Died at Warrance, Australia, on the 6th April 1839 ? JULIA MURRAY eldest daughter of James Murray, Esq., of — aged — years  JAMES MURRAY second son of the late Colonel Murray died at — 4th July 18— aged 58 years Also WILLIAM MURRAY his son who died at Calcutta 13th (15th) November 1861 aged 42 years  JOHN MURRAY died 30th July 1876  Also WILHELMINA BELL wife of the above James Murray who died September 1879 aged 80 years  JAMES MURRAY died July 21st 1881 ? aged 45 years Also FREDERICK JOHNSTONE MURRAY youngest son of James Murray and grandson of the late Colonel Murray born at Georgefield, Westerkirk, 26th August 1841 died at — Australia 6th November 1915 aged 74 years   (stone badly worn)
(On end panel)  In memory of CONTITY MURRAY the daughter of James Murray, Tenant in Georgefield she died January 25th 1834 aged 2  years and 8 months
(On end panel)  In memory of CONTITY MURRAY the daughter of James Murray, Tenant in Georgefield she died October 30th 1836 aged 2 years and 6 months

From memory, it's a table-type memorial and was in a quite distressed condition in 2001.
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chinacharlie
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Re: The Black Murrays ( of Warrawang)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I do believe it's going to take quite a bit of sorting out, the earliest i've been able to go back to is 1801 when my gggggrandfather William Murray was born in the civil parish of Canonbie, i don't as yet know who his parents were but i do know that his wifes name was Mary, i don't know her maiden name but she was born in England.

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Family romany names of special interest;
LOVERIDGES from Bedfordshire;
SMITHS from Cambridgeshire;
Also the PARKERS and AYRES families.

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MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire;
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire;
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