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tropicalj
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he died 16 August 1830
Can I ask where you got the date from?
it may very well help us in the serch for his death
Information out there in cyber space
Ann Upton arrived in 1806 on the William Pitt and died in 1864 at Jerry’s Plains
Born Anderby, Lincolnshire, England
Children
Ann Ham
Frances Ham
Henry George Ham
James Ham
William Ham
George Ham was born Oxfordshire
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Just Moi
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Umm,
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/familyHistory.htm
The Registry holds over 18 million records of events registered in NSW. These records include:
Early Church Records (baptismal, marriages and burials) from 1788 to 1855.
Sorry, but I cannot find on the NSW bdm online site
i) a registration for a marriage between George HAM and an Elizabeth LEITH....
ii) a registration for his death in NSW (not just in 1830, but also not ever !)
iii) a registration for birth/christening of James or Ann.... (although they are noted on the musters as Born in the Colony, it was NOT compulsory to have the births registered)....
However, you note that George died in 1830, so the 1838 arrival via assisted passage of a lass aged 23 year old and named Elizabeth LEITH could not be his partner.
BUT, I can find at the NSW bdm online site the CHRISTENING registration for three possible children to George and Ann :
1807 Henry G; 1816 Frances ; and 1820 Frances
Not sure if I can help you further....
Cheers, JM
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tropicalj
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Jm..
you have certianly tried your best to find anything further.
As registrations didn"t start until 1855 everything prior to that relied mainly on the church records.
It will be very interesting to see where the death date came from
kind thoughts Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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newresearcher-71
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its what i got when i did a searched for our family i have seen 2 dates 16 august 1830 and one for about 1868 i was on my father ancestorywhen i was looking for things there you see
George has a son james who was born 1812 who had children henry george james ham 1840 who then he had children who had joseph Augustus ham born 1878 who is my lineage hes OUR GRANDFATHER FATHER he then had children and clele joseph was born 1918 this is OUR GRANDFATHER then he had a son who was born 1939 bj who is my Father Inlaw who then had a child born 1963 who is my HUSBAND Cj and then he had a son WHO IS MY SON Ttj born 1996
we also were given some information from back after the grandfather had passed away and this were we get some of george information from also im so sorry i feel like im a pain im so sorry thanks to everyone for all your help i also have read that when ann Epton and George parted he was with an elizabeth leith in baulkham hills but not sure if they ever married
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newresearcher-71
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i didnt know ann epton had 5 children with george i only new of 4 henry james ann and frances is this correct there were 5?
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Just Moi
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Hi there,
Please don't ever even consider that you are a "pain", I enjoy helping here at Rootschat, and although I have never met Judith I am positive she also enjoys helping...
Please may I ask you one special thing.... Please just go and modify your last message, and delete the names of your family who are alive... Its to protect their privacy....
Many happy thoughts from Moi to You
JM
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tropicalj
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Please do not feel you are bing a pain as you put it we are all happy to help, otherwise we wouldn't reply to your requests.
I also enjoy helping out folk
I am only going on information that I have found, that lists five children.
Anything that we can do we will
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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newresearcher-71
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did anyone have any luck with george ham could he maybe of died in windsor as i have read he was living in baulkham hills with elizabeth leith could he and her be defacto you think again thanks for all help and does it say when tthey child william was born i only have a listing as 4 thou
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tropicalj
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If you read the link that Julie gave you, you will see it said they had four children that survived to adulthood so it is possible that one died young.,
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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newresearcher-71
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have have been informed george was born in goring on 14.10.1770 and died 1830 at campbelltown (to which im still not to sure of this year)and his father being richard ham n mother hannah to which they married 1755 going heath england so i will have to go and look on this now thankyou for your help...can anyone help me by telling me where i can search these or any other good sites to search for family struff would appreciate it thanks in advance jen
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Just Moi
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Bit More,
Re Elizabeth LEITH
In 1825 Muster, an Elizabeth LEITH ex the Glatton of 1803, sentenced for 7 years and thus free by servitude was living with her husband at Windsor. His name : JOHN ALLEN ... Umm, a puzzle !
JM
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Just Moi
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Bit More
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html
This is the link to the main Australian Resources Board here at RChat... I tend to use many of the links available on that Board to find the indexed information and then I try to find the official records that either confirm or disprove my findings...
As you are located in Sydney, then there's some very good research facilities quite handy to you.... Perhaps a visit to the Parramatta Heritage Centre and a chat with the archivist upstairs who will be able to direct you to their archives .... they were fantastic when I got there several years ago...
Many cheers
JM
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Just Moi
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Umm,
Bit More,
1822 Muster has an Elizabeth LEITH on it but she was BORN in the Colony, and aged 6, and living with Harriet LEITH ex the convict ship Maria....
This may indicate there were several females named Elizabeth LEITH, for afterall I have also read on that link from Julie where the poster on that site notes "In the 1822 Muster George is listed as living in Baulkham Hills with Elizabeth Leith, also a convict.".... but I have gone through my 1822 Muster records and cannot find supporting info... Sorry.
JM
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