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Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 16:49 UTC (UK) »

can anyone help with maiden name of Mary,  b.1827 Beeston thought it might be Towlson, but not sure now.  Married to Hiram White b. 1816, Beeston mentioned census 1871, 1861, but on 1851 his name is spelt Trham wite, also on census is Joseph Towlson,   inmate, also Towlson's lived next door, so was he just a lodger? or what.   
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 17:01 UTC (UK) »

marr index
name; hiram white
y.o.r. 1847
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; basford
vol; 15
page 605
2 marys on the same page; mary hammond,mary towlson
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 17:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ruby

According to the Notts FHS Marriage index Hiram White married Mary Towlson at Beeston 9.8. 1847

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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 17:11 UTC (UK) »

on the 1841 census there is a mary towlson aged 15 in nottinghamshire with probable parents
william/maria
think you need to get the 1847 marr cert
you would then find marys fathers name and occ
on the 1851 census williams occ is framework knitter.
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 October 09 19:33 UTC (UK) »

thanks wozzle and sunflower for help
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 October 09 22:42 UTC (UK) »

Any help?

Baptism 15.01.1826 in Beeston -- Mary Ann Towlson, daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Towlson. Thomas was a cordwainer.

The Mary Towlson with parents William and Maria was baptised in 1825 in Attenborough.
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 October 09 23:18 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Annie65115,
its the mary towlson with parents william & maria i'm looking for,

williams parents were hannah brown & william towlson, so in 1851 when entered as Trham wite who was the joseph towlson living with them as inmate, but on 1861 census entered as grandpa b. 1790
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 October 09 23:37 UTC (UK) »

OK - Mary Ann Towlson b 23.10.1825, St Mary the Virgin, Attenborough. Parents William and Maria Towlson, William was a FWK.

4 siblings listed - John, Alfred, Josiah and William (father's occupation changes to lacemaker for the latter 2).

William Towlson m Maria Lee, Attenborough 18.4.1824.

(sorry if you have all this info already).

I can't find a baptism for William on the CD and there are no Joseph Towlsons born in the relevant year span either. I see on the 1851 that Joseph gives his birthplace as Arnold. But then again, Mary gives hers as Beeston - so are you sure that it is the Attenborough Mary, and not the Beeston one, that you're after?
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 November 09 13:42 UTC (UK) »

thanks annie for info
  I have joseph Towlson & Joseph wite on census 1851 but both are born Beeston.    Mary was b. Nottinghamshire, parish Attenborough, so perhaps that was Beeston as it is close.  After your e-mail I went thr. all worried I'd got confused with the bulwell family also Hiram & Mary.
On census 1841 mary & caroline are down as same yr. born are they twins?    many thanks again   rubyruby
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01 November 09 15:09 UTC (UK) »

I'm confused now Ruby.

How do you know that your Mary's parents were William and Maria? Have you got the marraige cert?

Where did you see Mary's birthplace given as Attenborough?
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 November 09 20:55 UTC (UK) »

I'm back at home now, and on my own computer with access to resources again.

Who is Caroline (vis a vis your last message?)

I've looked through the census returns for Hiram and Mary White and in every one, Mary says she's from Beeston; also. they were married at Beeston. Yet William and Maria Towlson had their daughter Mary baptised in Attenborough and to me, that doesn't fit.

Looking again at the baptism records for Beeston, I spotted this one:

dob 14,2,1827; date of baptism 29.6.1835 Mary, daughter of JOSEPH and Elizabeth Toulson Joseph was a FWK. There are 6 Toulson baptisms with these parents, between 1816 - 1834. This seems highly likely to me to be the same family - you have Mary of the right age, in the right village; you have Joseph; and you have the FWK family.

Joseph Toulson m Elizabeth Clifford in Beeston in 1815 which would tie in nicely with those children's dates, but I can't see any baptism for Joseph.

If you have Mary and Hiram's marraige cert, and confirmation from that of Mary's parents, please say and put me out of my misery! If not, then I think you're to have to get it to confirm or refute the above.



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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 01 November 09 22:26 UTC (UK) »

thanks annie

I think I'll send for hiram & Mary's marriage cert,  then hopefully I'll know the parents.
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 November 09 23:16 UTC (UK) »

Please let us know what you find out!
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:26 UTC (UK) »

I'm confused now Ruby.

How do you know that your Mary's parents were William and Maria? Have you got the marraige cert?

Where did you see Mary's birthplace given as Attenborough?

For info its possible for someone to be baptised/married/buried at Attenborough as its only a spit away from Beeston, I have 1 relative who was married at Attenborough Church even though the parents of both  were living in Beeston, most of my tribe though were baptised/married/buried within Beeston/Nottingham in the 1800's.
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Re: Marriage Lookup - Beeston
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 November 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »

At last marr. cert. for Hiram White arrived, thanks Annie & other contacts for help.
Parents for Mary Towlson are Joseph Towlson FWK marr. Beeston 9.8.1847.  So Annie your info dob Mary 14.2.1827, parents Joseph & Elizabeth Beeston,  are right, so I had right area but wrong parents.

The other strange thing is,  if I haven't got this messed up as well, is Hiram's son and father both named Joseph, both marr Sarah's
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