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KirstyG
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Re: hankins
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 01 November 09 02:39 UTC (UK) » |
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You are correct, father and son both named Richard.
Youare not being dense, they are just using the same names AGAIN! You don't seem to have any luck with your family lines. They are all remarkably un-original in their naming of children!
I had wondered if the names of the younger Richard's children might give clues to the names of his grandparents. Going by the census entries they all had middle names.
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 01 November 09 04:14 UTC (UK) » |
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Glamis/Kirsty...John Hankins Snr (1822) his son was John Herbert Hankins.(1847).(Lawyer) .John George Herbert Hankins(1873)was the son of John Herbert Hankins Confusing I know, why they didn't call them Jack Harry and Tom..I dont know, would have made it a lot easier on the brain...
I have a Richard Hankins with 218 acres employing 4 men and two boys at Evesley in the 1861 census ? aged 60..with a wife Ann.. Who I think is their father and Mother...
Another Richard Hankins with 216 acres ..sounds familiar..employing ?men and 1 boy..I think this is the son..His wife is Mary, as in Mary C Hankins...am I right?
I know that the brother William also was a farmer, but have not found him on property yet...
And...where is the other son Edward Hankins???..was he a farmer also....?
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 01 November 09 05:15 UTC (UK) » |
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John Hankins Snr.(1822) ..his son was John Herbert Hankins (1847) Lawyer. born in England.....his son John George Herbert Hankins (1873) was born in NZ...
I have A Richard Hankins..with 218 acres, employing 4 men and two boys at Eversley in the 1861 census..age 60 with wife Ann...the Father I think of John and Richard Hankins.
Another Richard Hankins...with 216 acres.(sound familiar?) employing ?men and 1 boy..wife Mary..as in Mary C.Hankins...John Hankins (1822) brother...
I know that William Bartholomew..another brother (1818) was also a farmer..but havn't been able to find him on the land, other than a lodger in the 1971 census...
I have not found an Edward Hankins...another brother as yet. what occupation he had...
I would like to know where the Father Richard was born...was it Dymock..Surrey..or Hampshire??
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 November 09 05:17 UTC (UK) » |
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sorry about the repeats..but things were busy at chat room and I was told to send later..which I did, and saw that I had said much the same as before...did not know it was already sent....
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 November 09 20:17 UTC (UK) » |
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The message I sent was on the Hankins site..which appears to be rather confusing, as there are two ..the one with just Hankins...dalek. and the one with Hankins 12....Then there is the site Herefordshire on the top of display screen when you bring the Rootschat.com up....maybe we should just have the one Hankins site ..as I'm not sure as to what one I should use.....
Also..re Carson tree...I'll re-direct that to you..as we have a membership with them.....
I have just received a message from them with names and dates on John Hankins and family, which I will look at later, but have family arriving at any moment..and if they are different to what we have then I'll pass that on also...
If you still have any trouble finding that message, just let me know, and I'll resend it....
I'm REALLY looking forward to today, they have just said its going to be 33d,,and we are not in summer yet...oh boy !! I may be off the air for a day or two, as I am minding the "grand dogs" had the grandchildren yesterday for two days...no wonder I get muddled in the head.......Bye for now..
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Chilis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 01 November 09 20:49 UTC (UK) » |
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When you return to the cause, you might look at Genuki for Herefordshire and the section of 'Family Deeds'. There is a covenant dated April 1842 which mentions both a William and Richard HANKINS and they seem to be at Donnington which is about 3 miles from Dymock (you mentioned Dymock earlier, though I have no idea in what context).
Family Deeds
Re: Deed of Covenant dated 10 April 1842
Names mentioned:
Richard HANKINS Gentleman. Former of lands called Taylors before William Hankins and also lands called Allcrofts and Bernards in the parish of Donnington/Ledbury
William HANKINS Gentleman. Formerly of lands called Taylors after Richard Hankins and also lands called Allcrofts in the parish of Donnington/Ledbury
I've finished a weekend of grandchildren sitting myself, hence a bit of light relief looking at other folks research requests...
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Glamis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 01 November 09 21:19 UTC (UK) » |
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You all should look at the latest at the thread for Lieut. Col. James'Dalrymple on the Scotland thread. The latest is the stuff for Granny ASWD- Hankins and the Regimental Colours.
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Chilis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 01 November 09 22:55 UTC (UK) » |
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Back to the 'lost' Hannah Maria HANKINS - She didn't return to England and re-marry did she? There's a marriage March Q. 1888 Litchfield 6b 527 of a Hannah Maria HANKINS..
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #23 on: Monday 02 November 09 00:12 UTC (UK) » |
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Thank you very much Chillis...I'll certainly look into that.....actually I thought of that, but didn't know where to look.......
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #24 on: Monday 02 November 09 04:19 UTC (UK) » |
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chillis I doubt that she would return to UK what with all that family of hers, plus grandchildren...if she did re-marry I think it would have been in NZ...but...I dont know...no sign of her in the NZ records other than a Anna Maria..with "unknown"...maybe she was in the Palmerston area where her son was...
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #25 on: Monday 02 November 09 07:04 UTC (UK) » |
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I would like to know..need help....John Hankins father was Richard Hankins..Both John and his father Richard gave their occupations as farmers..Johns address at the time of his marriage was Swindon. Gloucester... William, Johns brother, gave his birthplace as Sugwas, Herefordshire. 1818...also a farmer.. John Hankins birthplace was Bartestree, Herefordshire...1822..
What I need to know..is where Richard Hankins was born...date around 1801 minus 5 years each side... I have looked at his marriage to Ann Hall..Ann Brown.. Ann Cowley...All the records show is Anne... Anne who ?? I would like to trace this family back further...Any information would be great.
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dalek39
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« Reply #26 on: Monday 02 November 09 10:28 UTC (UK) » |
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Does anyone know any information who Richard Hankins, born 1801, give or take a couple of years...was married to..Anne..Who?? His children were born at Bartestree, Herefordshire..but I have a notion he came from Gloucestershire. I could be wrong...would love to know...
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KirstyG
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Re: hankins
« Reply #27 on: Monday 02 November 09 15:01 UTC (UK) » |
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Trying to fill in some of the gaps I found some of the christenings of the children of John Hankins and Hannah Maria Herbert.
Ada Elizabeth Hankins June 28th 1849 All Saints Hereford
Amy Mary Hankins 24th June 1850 All Saints Hereford
Alice Herbert Hankins 16th October 1851 All Saints Hereford
In all of these extracted entries the mother is listed as Maria.
Have you tried searching in NZ for her using her middle name?
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dalek39
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« Reply #28 on: Monday 02 November 09 19:09 UTC (UK) » |
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Thanks KirstyG..for the dates, I have some but not all...and I have searched all cemetries, even emailed some , and used both names of Maria and Hannah Maria....I did find one with Anna Maria.but record stated death unknown... I received from Chillis that she may have even remarried,and gone back to England.. that is a possibility, but I doubt that she would leave her whole family plus granchildren...I still believe she is in NZ, possible near Palmerston where her eldest son was.but then again I did find a daughter Annie Maria living in Melbourne at one time..maybe I should look there...... I thought of sending off to NZ BMD for that one of "Anna Maria"..but have sent for other members of the family , paid, and been sent someone else's who would have been 140 years old when died....sent that back..but, no, they sent it back to me again...I'm a bit reluctant to send off again until I"m sure...
I came across one Maria who died around 1874 ? that may have been her, but no site of burial..that meant she would have died 10 years after she arrived..... Ive looked up "papers past" and did find some very interesting information, not on her, but on my Ggrandmother...but..back to Hannah Maria...
I am still waiting for information from Christchurch Cemetries, but its been awhile, they may have forgotten...as they say patience is a virtue....
While I have you here Kirsty..Ive noticed there are two Hankins threads, which I find a little confusing..which one should I keep with ? Thanks again...
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Glamis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #29 on: Monday 02 November 09 20:21 UTC (UK) » |
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Dalek39, where and which is the 2nd Hankins thread you mention? Don't get confused by the one for Lieut.Col. James Dalrymple. It is not a Hankins thread but one that links through ASWD; his Great Grand daughter. She married J H Hankins. This is you're thread for Hankins. The other is mine for Lieut.Col.James. We link through our genetics of Hankins in that your G'Grandmother Alice was J H Hankins sister. J H Hankins is my G'Grandfather.
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