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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:49 UTC (UK) » |
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Richard Hankins did have a brother..William Bartholomew Hankins, born 1818 Bartestree Hereford.. and another brother Edward Hankins, born 1824 Bartestree herefordshire...and there is an Elizabeth there , but I'm not sure if she was John Hankins daughter or his sister...
And..I have a Anne Hall as mother, born around Dormington , which is close to Bartestree, and married a Richard Hankins, in Dormington in 1809..but the date worries me.. I'm working on that....cheers
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:55 UTC (UK) » |
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I went to refer to the messages that came in over night from KirstyG and Chillis, and they have all be deleted.....Is this my computer playing up again, have they been removed?
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Glamis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:37 UTC (UK) » |
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Oh Dear so have mine. I was only answering about 30 minutes ago. What's happened?
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 05 November 09 22:17 UTC (UK) » |
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  Well..at least its not me....I have had difficulties, as you know, with getting around all this...then my computer went bererk..you must have thought I'd gone mad..and so did all my friends....what can I say...anyway, no wonder the administrator put a lock on me...I hope that's not
permanent...anyway..how is your investigation going? I'm trying to find Richard Hankins wife Anne...
Anne who? As I said in my last message, I found one at Dormington, dont know if thats the one, but it is close to where they came from...only thing is the dates are out, but we all know that can happen...I had one rellie who was christened before she was born...if you took notice of the records... so, best of luck I say...to us..we need it all....
I hope Chillis received my thanks before things "cut out"for his part in information he gave us.. if not, hopefully he'll see this....
Well its 9.09am here..the day starts..and by the look at the weather report we are in for a warm week..mid 30's..Sydney had it 38d on Monday ( which is very rare for Sydney)
Re John Hankins living at Hagley Hall...wasn't far wrong..he did, but not "The Hagley Hall" I'm still laughing at that...but there was one at Hagley in Lugwardine..Herefordshire.....but I dont think its there now... OK thats it for now.. till more news comes in....... 
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Glamis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 05 November 09 22:56 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi, I don't think the lock is a problem, otherwise we would not be talking now. Anyway, John Hankins my Great Grandfather, seems to have fingers in many pies. Political, Land,Law, Farming, Livestock, Masonry, NZ social development, wheeling and dealing. He was a clever man. I still can't find this Scotland connection though. Will keep looking. What did your Great Granny Alice get up to? She was his sister- it's in the genes.
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Chilis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 05 November 09 23:31 UTC (UK) » |
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It is very difficult to follow this thread and recent postings by you Dalek39 seem to be referring to different generations from that to which I referred in my Replies #56 and #58.
Anyway, before I give up this evening, I have just transcribed the Will of Richard HANKINS of Bartestree Court who died just after we'd found him in the 1841 census where William and Richard (both Independent) were listed in his household.
So, basically Richard left a lot of property dividing it between sons William (Barthlomew), Richard and John (husband of Hannah Maria). Richard got land and premises in the occupation of John PITT in Weston Beggard and also cottages, land etc, in New Town, Yarkhill in the occupation of Thomas CORBETT.
John got all the messuages or tenements, land and premises that were on/in Hagley, Lugwardine 'bought and purchased by my brother, William' as well as getting premises situated at the Blackpole in Bartestree.
All other messuages or tenements, buildings, farms lands being in several townships including Mordiford and elsewhere in the county, etc.etc. went to William.
So, that's all for this evening.
Chilis
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Glamis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 05 November 09 23:47 UTC (UK) » |
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Chillis, I too am finding thsi equally difficult to follow.I now have no idea which Richard, John and William you are referring to. I assume it is the Grandfather and Uncles of J H Hankins(Lawyer NZ) and Dalek 39's Great Grandmother; Alice, J H Hankins' sister?Sorry if I'm completely wrong and off pat.Direction required if this is so. Anyway, I have to say Thank you for your interest and efforts because they astound me. I hope your holiday is fun.
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #67 on: Friday 06 November 09 01:34 UTC (UK) » |
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Chillis / Glamis.... to sort things out ...and I too get confused at times, as you both well know...but....
There was No 1..Richard Hankins (father of)
William Bartholomew......John...Richard...and Edward.....all born in Bartestree...
I know its difficult with all the names blending..but Richard (father) had the land in Hereford, from what I gather..and, as you said Chillis, left it to his sons.........
What happened to Edward I dont know as yet....Richard stayed as a farmer and married Mary C Hankins..from Bromyard...
John Hankins who went to NZ.....with the whole family........his eldest son, John Herbert Hankins who was the lawyer....who had a son...John George Herbert Hankins.......that is where the confusion appears... They should have called each son..Tom Dick and Harry..would have made it a lot clearer....
I hope this has sorted things out....sorry Chillis if you were confused..but its not easy , with all the names being the same.....I'm sorry...blame the Hankins.....they started it....
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #68 on: Friday 06 November 09 02:07 UTC (UK) » |
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Glamis...I noticed in your reply #64..you said that John Hankins was your Great Grandfather..Did you mean John the Lawyer, John Herbert Hankins ??
How about...to stop all this confusion, we refer to the Hankins...as...Grandad Hankins (Richard)
John..NZ
John Herbert. Lawyer.
John George..Accountant ...instead of Hankins after each name....so then we know who we are talking about... with all the "Johns" no wonder we get confused.......just a thought....
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #69 on: Friday 06 November 09 02:11 UTC (UK) » |
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Sorry Chillis...that you were confused...we all are....but thanks for all that info...great work..
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dalek39
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Re: hankins
« Reply #70 on: Friday 06 November 09 03:05 UTC (UK) » |
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Glamis...dont know much about great grannie Hankins, except she was deserted by hubby with 7 kids...I believe John Lawyer helped her out somewhat....being his sister....all I have is one photo of her, with her daughter Florence Herbert..and she looked 85 in that..She died at 90..and is buried at Ruru Lawn cemetry in CH.CH. New Zealand..Will do some research on her when I get this lot sorted out..Our parents never said much about family in those days, as you know...left it all to us...but...its fun, apart from the confusion that goes with it...but, we'll manage that I'm sure....Its all good experience.....in sending some mad....including me...bye for now...
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Glamis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #71 on: Friday 06 November 09 08:27 UTC (UK) » |
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Yes Dalek39, John Herbert Hankins (Lawyer) is my Great Grandfather, his son John George Herbert is my Grandfather who married Mary Olive Te Akau Hickson. Your poor Grannie Alice being left with 7 children to care for.
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Chilis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #72 on: Friday 06 November 09 16:38 UTC (UK) » |
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Overcast, drizzly, 10C here, but still I paddled out in my wellies on the HANKINS trail.
Dalek39, and Glamis too, you'd better get over here QUICK! Not that I know where you are, Glamis.
Exciting news. Got all three generations in Weston Beggard churchyard. I've got some lovely photos of all the memorials, the earliest ones (1791 ....) being three huge stone tombstones close to the church entrance. These stones are losing their faces and their lead lettering is being torn away by ivy growth. They are in desperate need of attention!
I have extracted what I can by way of epitaphs, but will need to trace over the flaked surfaces to get impressions of what is left. Even so, I've got enough information to assume that 'everyone' is here.
Time I think for you to send me a PM with your e-mail addresses if you want to see these pics...
Chilis
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Glamis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #73 on: Friday 06 November 09 17:19 UTC (UK) » |
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Well found, I'm so pleased and Thank you Chillis. Thanks so very much for braving the weather and for your efforts into this.Will PM info once I've worked out how to.I've worked out how to but the website is jammed and the message won't send. Will try again later when it's less busy. Wonder if the cold, wet, dark evening has got something to do with it?
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Chilis
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Re: hankins
« Reply #74 on: Friday 06 November 09 18:27 UTC (UK) » |
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Ah, so you are over here, Glamis
Chilis (appropriately enough)
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