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corsa
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Not really sure were to post this.. but does anyone know how you can prove a marriage was either bigamous and or spouse had been declared dead after seven years. Obviously cannot go into name details at this stage.
All I can say is persons in question are definetly deceased now. Hope all that makes sense
Corsa
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regross
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Corsa,
Quite a touchy subject I would think. One would need to be sure that the proving of the bigamy did not have a follow on effect on living persons.
I also think that there was a lot of it around in the years before divorce became accessible to the ordinary person.
Many couples actually lived "defacto" or "common law" marriages and never actually legalised their relationship. They may well have given relations a date and place of marriage to maintain respectability. I have found lots of these and most had not been married at all.
I have found many instances of marriages where one of the partners had been married before and been unable to find a death for their first spouse prior to the second marriage and sometimes I never found a death of the spouse.
One marriage certificate had a date and place of death of the spouse who actually died 5 years after the date of the marriage!!! Whether anyone realised this is a fact I have no information on and it was so long ago it is no longer relevant.
Basically to prove bigamy you would need a copy of the first marriage certificate (in Australia it gives, ages, places of birth, marital status, no of children from prior marriage , parents names etc), copy of the second marriage certificate, and documentation to prove that the first spouse was still alive at the time of the second marriage.
A death certificate for the first spouse dated after the second marriage, a dated will or other legal document, the person themselves!!! You would need to prove that this person was the partner in the first marriage.
Of course you would also need to determine that the marriage did not end in divorce (civil records) or by annullment (church records) both of which would in most cases never have been refered to by either couple to outsiders.
There is no easy way as you would need to be very very sure that the information is 100% correct .
Obviously if the spouse had been legally declared dead then there would be no impediment to the marriage.
good luck
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
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corsa
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Hi Robyn, Many thanks for enlightening me and taking the time to get back to me.
I never even thought they might have been divorced and because it was such a stigma it was felt deemed by the spouse to just say she was widowed I have marriage certs for both marriages and death certs for all parties but obviously I have to prove that person X did die AFTER the second marriage., the death cert does not actually prove it was person X . I may have to search for divorce papers now. Hope that makes sense? I will let you know if I can get to prove anything.
Again many thanks for your time and trouble.
Corsa
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regross
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Corsa,
such bad luck that the death certifiarte doesn't help prove that the person who died was the partner of the first marriage it would make it so much easier.
Remember that sometimes names at death are not always the same as baptised names or names at marriage. People opt to change names for many reasons.
In my family I have in the 1850's an ELIZABETH who was always known as Isabella, her grandchildren don't accept that the name on the birth certificate is correct, in the first world war years a BERYL who was really Gloria and now my niece BRIONY is now Alanah.
Neither Isabella or Beryl show up in births to their parents with those fornames, or in marriages to their spouses, but they do appear, with the correct parents in the deaths. They are there with the correct names in the birth registrations.
Heaven hlep the future generations researching this tree.
regards
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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