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Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 11:47 UTC (UK) »

Please has anyone access to the parish records o Kilmersdon pre 1725 The excellent Yahoo group has transcribed the registers from 1725 but I have a will which names the children of a direct ancestor in that parish and only the last two are on the transcribed records so i need to look just before 1725 for John, Robert and Ann CABBELL or CABIL with variations
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 October 09 06:40 UTC (UK) »

Try Dennis White's site, he has transcribed Kilmersdon parish registers:

http://www.kilmersdon-radstock.org.uk/kilsom.htm

Though he says 1708-1725 are missing.
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 October 09 10:29 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks a very useful link Sadly thats the very period I need
I wonder if Bishops transcripts are available for the period
my problem is that a Will mentions five children and only two baptisms can be found both in 1727 so I think the other three are slightly older.
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 October 09 23:04 UTC (UK) »

I had a look on the IGI site and it looks like the BTs are missing those years too.

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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 November 09 05:22 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for checking that is a great shame I suppose we will have to settle for 7x great grand parents that  isn't too bad really  Smiley

Now I know he was buried 7 Jan 1756 in Kilmersdon  I wonder if there is a MI for William CABBELL showing an age the children I have baptisms for were1727 assuming the other three were older William and Mary must have married about1720 so they must have been born before 1700 I 'll look at the register before the missing one for a William birth and in surrounding parishes for a marriage about 1720
may be it isn't quite the end of the trail yet

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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 November 09 13:51 UTC (UK) »

Hello Trees,

What date was the Will made please? Is there any information on the beneficiaries at the time it was proved?

There is a burial of a William CABBELL in Kilmersdon 27/09/1747.
Also, an Anne CABELL there on 17/01/1760.

These are on Freereg which has a number of CABBELL burials at Kilmersdon. http://www.freereg.org.uk

I did look to see if I could identify these from marriages but this was unsuccessful.

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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 November 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Testator:   William CABBEL               
Made:   2  Aug 1753
Died:   
Buried:   7 Jan 1756   Kilmersdon, Somerset   
Proved:   
Executrix:      Wife   Mary CABBEL      
Beneficiaries:
Wife   Mary CABBEL   All Lands etc for her life      
   then to his five children
Son   John CABBEL (Eldest)   Possession of the lands   
Son   Robert CABBEL   £3 per year      
Son   William CABBEL   £4 per year      
Daughter   Ann CABBEL   £4 per year      
Daughter   Mary BULL      £4 per year
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 November 09 14:25 UTC (UK) »

I think son ROBERT married Betty MERCHANT in Holcombe in 1752 if I could find his death the age may lead to his birth date
Haven't found more for son John ar Daughter Ann Our direct line is from Mary who married Joseph BULL havent worked on her twin William either
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 November 09 14:59 UTC (UK) »

I now think Robert is the one Buried in Kilmersdon 12 jan 1792 but no age is given
I need to find if he left a will
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 November 09 11:10 UTC (UK) »

Hello Trees,

The name of Cabbell (and variants) is known to me as I have ancestors from that area and have come across it many times.

You might find it worthwhile to look at the website for the Frome Group if you have not already done so. http://www.gomezsmart.myzen.co.uk A search for Cabbell produces many hits and areas round Frome as well as in it.

Out of interest, I don't know if you have seen in marriages in Kilmersdon on Freereg, that witnesses to marriages in the 1750s included Robert CABBELL and John CABLE/CABBELL. I found about 6 of them in all. Some others in 1760s and 1770s with other witnesses which could be your line.

I should think the marriage in Holcombe in 1752 is almost certain as that is very near to Kilmersdon.

I have seen a lot of old graves for Cabbell etc somewhere round there I am trying to recall where exactly.

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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 02 November 09 11:16 UTC (UK) »

Great Jo i will take a look as you suggest I don't think there will be too many Roberts about so will claim those witnesses as ours until proven different
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 November 09 13:22 UTC (UK) »

Had an over night stop in Taunton and found a great deal on the Cabbells hooray
Robert became the Church Warden (hence alll the weddings he witnessed) his mother Mary was nominated as an overseer and as well as William's will we found Robert's and one for one of his daughters however we failed to find William's baptism or marriage but there is plenty to transcribe well worth the trip
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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 November 09 14:03 UTC (UK) »

Hello Trees,

Pleased to hear that you have made good progress.

I have been racking my brain to think where I saw the Cabbell graves. I have an idea it was Nunney. Another possibility is Holcombe Old Church.

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Re: Kilmersdon pre 1725?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 November 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

I looked through the Kilmersdon MI's nothing which was a surprise as they seem to have been reasonably wel off from the new data they seem to have been yeomen or cordwainers and of course parish officials John also must have been a carpenter as he was paid for 2 coffins in one account, so you would think there would have been MI's prehaps they were too worn to read at the time the FHS collected them.
I know Robert was Church warden between 1780 and 1787
It was interesting reading his accounts but chilling to see an item for 416 dozen sparrows 5 hedgehogs and a pole cat  to think my garden  feeders have sparrows queuing up
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