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liver007
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The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:32 UTC (UK) »
My  G Grandfather George Tierney DOB: 1872 was A publicans Manager at the Grapes in 1911.

He lived at 20 Park Place Toxteth possibly the pub address with his wife:
Annie Tierney (Nee Ryan)

They had the following children:

Margaret Mary  DOB 02 May 1909, George Tierney DOB: 1900.  Bernard Tierney DOB: 1902 and Eileen Tierney DOB 1906.

Any information regarding the pub around about 1911 or my Great Grandparents greatly received.


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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:45 UTC (UK) »
1911 directory has William Evans @ the Grapes,  20 Park Place Toxteth.
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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:54 UTC (UK) »
Also from the same directory.

George Tierney Barman. 103 Hawston street south.

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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 October 09 14:08 UTC (UK) »
Migky,

Thanks for that On the 1911 Census George is down as 20 Park Place Toxteth.



Much appreciated


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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 October 09 10:19 UTC (UK) »
Migky,


I have had a look last night at the actual 1911 census and the whole of the Tierney family were registered as living at 20 Park Place Toxteth.

Maybe they lived above the pub?


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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi Keith

Just checked the 1914 directory and couldn't find George Tierney anywhere, nor was there a 20 Park Place or Grapes pub at that address listed Huh

I looked through all the Grapes pubs and his name didn't show up, neither did William Evans.
Could the pub have been closed?? Did the family move away from Liverpool?

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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:34 UTC (UK) »
Erika,

Thank you for the information.

My Gran Margaret Mary Tierney, daughter of George and Annie Tierney, lived at 7 Aighburth View Lark Lane Liverpool in 1931 with at least one of her parents.


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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: liver007 on Thursday 29 October 09 14:08 UTC (UK)
Migky,
Thanks for that On the 1911 Census George is down as 20 Park Place Toxteth.
Much appreciated
Keith

Mine was not from the census but Kelly's 1911 directory. Transcribed in English by English  Grin
Unlike the 1911 Census  Grin

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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:38 UTC (UK) »
Do you know when George and Annie died?
I'll check the 1938 directory.

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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:39 UTC (UK) »
Migky,


Point noted.



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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:44 UTC (UK) »
It was not a dig at you Keith, i just wanted to point it out and didn't want to confuse the matter.
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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:50 UTC (UK) »
Just checked the 1938, but couldn't find George or Annie listed.

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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 October 09 14:54 UTC (UK) »
Migky,

I did not take it as a dig, but it does confuse people and send them down the wrong track, especially if someone has transcribed a document wrong.

I understand.


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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 October 09 15:24 UTC (UK) »
Directories are compiled during the year and published, so I suppose the information could be just a little out of date, however I did just come across a burial entry that might narrow down the time the Evans's were at the pub

Cecilia Mary Evans buried at Toxteth Park Cemetry 19th August 1897 aged 5 months.  Address Grapes Hotel, Park Place.
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Re: The Grapes Pub - Liverpool 1911
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 October 09 15:49 UTC (UK) »
Nice work MAary A  Wink
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