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lotteex
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William Manger - Sculcoates
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 16:36 UTC (UK) »
Unable to locate William Manger born 1821 in Yorkshire who married Elizabeth Gibson in 1847.  I have located him in 1871 just before he died, but he is missing on the 1851 and 1861 census.
Any help appreciated
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CaroleW
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 October 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »
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Unable to locate William Manger born 1821 in Yorkshire


Whereabouts in Yorkshire - full birthplace needed for census searches

Can we also have full details for Elizabeth plus any children born prior to the census entries you are seeking (ie) FULL 1871 details
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 October 09 16:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi

William was born in Hull, Elizabeth in County Durham in 1824.  They had 8 children in all starting with:
William (1850)
Anne (1852)
Robert (1854)
Caroline (1856)
Mary Jane (1860)
William (1864)
Joseph (1866)
Ethel (1868)
In 1851 they lived in Reform Street, Sculcoates and 1871 in Mason Street.
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CaroleW
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 October 09 17:35 UTC (UK) »
In 1851 they are indexed as Mager but William snr is not in household.  Living at 18 Reform St

HO107 Piece 2361 Folio 474 Page 33 

If you look at his occupation on the 1871 census - he was a master mariner - in cases with that occupation you need to search using other family members as your criteria
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 October 09 17:38 UTC (UK) »
In 1861 they are correctly shown as Manger but again - hubby not in household so I found them using daughter Caroline as the search criteria

RG9 Piece 3585 Folio 53 Page 7
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 October 09 19:04 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Carole and thank you for deciphering William's occupation, I could not get the Mariner part, so great help.  I suppose from this one has to assume he was at sea during the census night.  Do you know how I might find out?
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 October 09 22:48 UTC (UK) »
If he was in the merchant navy - which is highly likely from his occupation description - then he could have been in another country on census night

Merchant seaman at sea were not on censuses.  If they were moored in British waters on census night then they were included
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 November 09 18:23 UTC (UK) »


Thanks Carole for your help, this might be a dead end if he was indeed aboard ship

Regards

Lottee
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 November 09 20:47 UTC (UK) »
Hi Lotteex,
Here are some baptisms from Sculcoates Parish Records:=
16 December 1821 William son of William & Elizabeth Manger, Sykes St, Master Mariner.
16 September 1825, Margaret Ann daighter of William & Elizabeth Manger, Regent Sq, Sykes Street, Master Mariner,
Now a change of eife i think,
22 November Joseph Lowther Manger son of William & Sarah Manger, Caroline Place, Master Mariner.
Hope this is somw of the information you need,
best wishes,
gogogadgetlegs
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Andrew. Hull.
Watson. Beverley&Cherry Burton,
Theakstone, Beverley,Swanland & Hull, 
Norris, Beverley Area,
Boynton,Beverley area,
Binnington, Warne&Beverley,
Simpson, Leven, Beverley area,
Pickering, Middleton on the Wolds, Hull,
Harper, Ganton NRY & Hull, 
Kingdom, Ramsgate, Kent, Hull,
Brown, Hull,
Croforth/Crawford, Driffield.
Worledge ERY/Norfolk, 
Flatman ERY/Norfolk/Canada,
Jenkinson, Lincs, Hull, Sheffield.
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Re: William Manger - Sculcoates
« Reply #9 on: Friday 27 November 09 16:32 UTC (UK) »
Many thanks for this. I went onto Family search and found the entry and Sarah was his 2nd wife, her maiden name was Lowther which would match the son's middle name.
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