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finglaspete
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elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 19:56 UTC (UK) »

hi
I am a bit of a newby to british ancestry, but a seasoned vet in irish.
My ancestor Elizabeth(lily) Jones was born in caernarvonshire around 1894, all i know is that she had a sister called mary, her father died when he was 29, but i don't know his name, she was sent to live with another person, and only got occasional visits from her mother. as an adult she moved to Ireland, and married into the mills family and had family and RIP'd in Malahide co.dublin.
if you can answer a question relating to the above, brilliant, i'd love to hear from you. If not, could someone give me some advice where to look for census records, birth records etc that are online for this particular part of the world.
looking forward to hearing from you!
pete
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curran, carlow and  dublin
doyle, carlow
gaul, carlow
cooke, kilkenny
kelter, kilkenny
mills, kildare and queens
jones, wales
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o'rorke galway and carlow and laois
taylor, london
kelly, dublin and cavan
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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 October 09 20:13 UTC (UK) »

Looking for an Elizabeth jones with a vague birthdate -no parents names and just a county of birth is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

You say she had a sister mary ? Older or younger???

How did you come by this information???

Do you have Elizabeth's marriage cert??? Surely that would give the name of her father???

Do you know the names of the people Elizabeth went to live with ? Did her sister mary go to the same place???

Why do you have (Lily) after her name in your post???

How do you know her father was 29 when he died???

I have found an Elizabeth b abt correct time who is described as "adopted" - but it wou;d be pure guess

Any more information however slight may help??

Suz
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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 October 09 01:03 UTC (UK) »

hi there
I was speaking to elizabeths daughter, who is now 87, and though very sharp, told me all she could.
she told me that elizabeths father was 29 when he died, also the info on mary, who apparently came to visit to malahide quite regularly. I can't tell you if she was older, or even if she lived in ireland.
the reason I have lily as another name for her is because on her gravestone in malahide cemetery it says elizabeth mills (lily) on irish graves this usually signifies a persons known name rather than the real name at the beginning, thus she was known as "lily".
Thank you for the piece of advice about the marriage cert, I shall track it down, and will post when found.
I looked at the census for 1911 UK but there are 12 elizabeth jones of that age in caernarvonshire, I know it is a common name like kelly or murphy over here, but i just thought that someone might see it and a light bulb would go off.
Thank you suzard for contacting me, and thanks for the advice on the MC.
all the best
pete
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gaul, carlow
cooke, kilkenny
kelter, kilkenny
mills, kildare and queens
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brophy, carlow and dublin
o'rorke galway and carlow and laois
taylor, london
kelly, dublin and cavan
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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 November 09 13:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi finglaspete,

Another thing to consider...that real obstacle builder patronymics.  My great grandmother was Elizabeth Williams, daughter of John Williams. She was married as a Williams, but subsequently became Elizabeth Jones (corruption of John as in Elizaberth merch John.

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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 November 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I know that it is the name thing, same over here with doyle, kelly, murphy etc, but i posted this in the hope that someone might see it and say to themselves"that sounds familiar" and that we could then share info, I find elizabeth, and can then share her ancestors with whoever.
thanks for the reply
pete
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gaul, carlow
cooke, kilkenny
kelter, kilkenny
mills, kildare and queens
jones, wales
brophy, carlow and dublin
o'rorke galway and carlow and laois
taylor, london
kelly, dublin and cavan
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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 November 09 12:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Did Elizabeth marry in Ireland or Wales, and what was her husband's name ?
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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 November 09 22:49 UTC (UK) »

hi there
thanks for the post.
At the moment, I don't really know where she married. I have bought two marriage certs from the GRO in Dublin but alas, neither of them were her. She married a man called John(AKA Jack)Mills. She would have had her eldest child around 1918, and the youngest in 1932, in this time as far as I know, she had four children. I am still hedging my bets that she married in ireland, possibly around the Kilcullen area in Co.kildare, because all the children were born there to my knowledge. Also this is John Mills' hometown.
I suppose it could be a brides perogative thing, but as she was an orphan, I find it hard to think she married in wales.
I know too, that when I find the cert, I will possibly see her parents names and where she was from.
I know this is little to go on, but if you have a good angle of attack on this, I would love to see what you come up with.
all the best
pete
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doyle, carlow
gaul, carlow
cooke, kilkenny
kelter, kilkenny
mills, kildare and queens
jones, wales
brophy, carlow and dublin
o'rorke galway and carlow and laois
taylor, london
kelly, dublin and cavan
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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 November 09 17:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Had found marriage of an Anne E Jones, thought 'E' perhaps was for Elizabeth, who married Richard Mills, in quarter ending Dec 1917, in Llanrwst registration district, Carnarvonshire, and that was reason for my query.
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Re: elizabeth jones caernarvonshire
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 November 09 18:24 UTC (UK) »

hi again, and thanks for getting back so quick.
Just out of interest, you wouldn't know if Richard Mills was from Ireland?
Might be a good coincidence, that maybe sister in law and brother in law met and married either in the shape of elizabeth or anne 'e' Jones.
I know for a fact that Richard Mills was a brother of John(Jack)Mills, and was a year younger than John, born 1895 in Kilcullen co.Kildare. Of course of this is the same richard mills.
Sounds promising, maybe you could give me more details, or point me to a website that i can look at the record. Are you related to Anne?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
all the best
pete
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curran, carlow and  dublin
doyle, carlow
gaul, carlow
cooke, kilkenny
kelter, kilkenny
mills, kildare and queens
jones, wales
brophy, carlow and dublin
o'rorke galway and carlow and laois
taylor, london
kelly, dublin and cavan
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