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Topic: Completed -Possible Cemeteries for death in Cockermouth 1865 (Read 1151 times)
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cathyaus
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Hi
Hoping I can get some ideas as to where someone would be buried if they died in Cockermouth in 1865 ( assuming they were Church of England) & are there any online searches so that I can find the grave ??
I am looking for the grave of George SEDGWICK. Death registered Dec Quarter 1865
I have already checked here - http://www.cockermouth.org.uk/graveyards.htm
Thanks
Cathy in Australia
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Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)
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duckweed
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Have you got him in Cockermouth the census before he died? Because from the address you can work out which parish he was in. I'm assuming he did actually live in Cockermouth and not just the registration district. Suggest you look up http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CUL/Cockermouth/index.html
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cathyaus
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Hi duckweed
George Sedgwick, in the 1861 census, is living at Jackson's Yard in the Parish of Crosthwaite (Sp?) in the town of Keswick.
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Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)
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Geoff-E
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... in which case he is most likely to have been buried at Keswick.
Aerial photo http://tinyurl.com/yhza3g3
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duckweed
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I've got 2 churches mentioned for Crossthwaite St Mungos and St Kentigerns
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duckweed
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This is Saint Kentigern's Crossthwaite
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Geoff-E
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In Cumberland, there were several cases of towns being in "village" parishes (and appearing as such in censuses) while having churches of their own - these examples come to mind-
Whitehaven/St Bees
Cockermouth/Brigham
Maryport/Crosscanonby
and Keswick/Crosthwaite
Here's Keswick church (St John's) http://www.visitcumbria.com/kes/chk3.htm
As SEDGWICK was living in a yard off Main Street, Keswick in 1861, it seems likely to me that he would have been buried there.
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cathyaus
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Thanks for your replies.
Any ideas on how I go about searching for George Sedgwick's Grave - doesn't help that I am in Australia.
George Sedgwick is my husband's great great great grandfather & the last one that I have to find where he was buried. ( I doubt that I will find his parents George & Mary Sedgwick)
Yes duckweed I have seen the website Sedgwick.org. Fred Sedgwick did a great job locating the line.
Cathy
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Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)
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emmsthheight
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Hi Cathy
Have you got the death certificate for George? Or even an exact date from other sources?
Cockermouth Registration District would cover Keswick. You've a census in Keswisk.
If he did actually die in Keswisk, by this date, eithter church could apply. I know families who are split between the two. Crosthwaite was the whole area, but the church is still in Keswick, albeit on the edge, and many Keswick folkattended as they still do. St John's is nearer the centre on the other side and is the town church with its own burial ground, but either could apply.
Of course, he could have been taken back to a family plot out of town such as St John's in the Vale or \Threlkeld or wherever they'd lived. Or they could have moved to Cockermouth by the time of his death.
If you have quite a good date, someone might look in the papers for an announcement, but there are quite a few to choose from. Some people used a Penrith or Cumberland paper.
If you're unlucky, it's really a death certificate for these large districts unfortunately.
Last time I was at the record office, we got a lot of information from one of these churches but the other stopped quite early and I'm sorry I can't remember the details.
If you had an exact date, they might checlk both for you.
Someone might check the grave if you could find the number.
I'll see what I can see.
Best wishes
Emms
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cathyaus
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Thanks Emms - I will get on & order the death certificate today to give a better idea of where & when exactly he died.
Cathy
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Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)
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emmsthheight
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Hi Cathy
Do let us know how you get on, or if you have any more questions while you're waiting.
I know the cost adds up, but in this case I would, too. Then hopefully we can pin down which church and help you find a grave.
Best wishes from a cold wet England!
Emms
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cathyaus
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Hello Everyone
Well I have received the death certificate of George Sedgwick.
Details from the certificate:
When & Where died
23rd November, 1865
Shorley Croft
Keswick
Signature, description & residence of Informant:
Elizabeth Jackson
Present at the death
Kings Head Yard
Keswick
George Sedgwick, in the 1861 census, is living at Jackson's Yard in the Parish of Crosthwaite in the town of Keswick with his wife Ann.
In the 1851 census, George is recorded as a 50 year old ostler, living at King’s Head Yard, Keswick with his wife Ann (age 47).
Not exactly sure why George died at Shorley Croft & why Elizabeth Jackson from his address in the 1851 census was present at the death ! ?
Do you think that if I contacted the Record Office at Kendal (is this the one I should contact) that they would have any information regarding his place of burial ??
In Australia - especially in the State (translate to County if I was in England)of New South Wales -the death certificates also include the details of where the burial or cremation occured !
Thanks
Cathy
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Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)
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Geoff-E
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Shorley Croft is a present day address on the Penrith Road - see red marker http://tinyurl.com/ya32sgw
Notice too Shorley Lane close by. At the bottom of the picture you can see the parish church and, to the south of the church, Keswick Cemetery.
As you have the date and place of death, I would contact Whitehaven Records Office and see if they can give you a burial date http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/whrec.asp
I see Elizabeth JACKSON was unmarried in 1851 but widowed in 1861 
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cathyaus
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Hi Geoff
Thank you for the informatio & the links.
Are you a local ? & do you know what Shorley Croft is - I thought that it was a village ??
I will definately email Whitehaven Records Office - thanks kindly for the link !
I see Elizabeth JACKSON was unmarried in 1851 but widowed in 1861
Didn't even think to look into that situation - even thought I suspect something was a bit strange - will need to check that out too
Thanks again
Cathy
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Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)
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