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Topic: MacKay/Mackie Mystery! Help please? (Read 137 times)
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Reayboy
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Mary Ann Owens - The bravest woman I never knew
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Hi guys,
I was wondering whether or not I could obtain some advice about my 3x great grandmother. Her name was Ann MacKay/Mackie and according to the census she was born in Edinburgh 1821-1824.
She married Ralph Hastie (year, date place unknown) unable to find on SP, but it would be somewhere around 1844 in Edinburgh. Ralph was from Canongate and his father was Archibald Hastie, but I cannot seem to find anything on Ann at all. Her death certificate in 1884, Kirkieldbank, Lanarkshire says she was 62, and the daughter of Andrew MacKay/Mackie and Jane Marshall. I cannot seem to find a single OPR relating to Ann's birth, mariage to Ralph, or their daughter Annie Mackie Hastie born c1852 in Biggar (my gt gt granny).
Does anybody have any advice on how to explore other avenues in looking for this family? Surely they must be recorded somewhere in the OPR's, but I simply cannot find them. Google brings up some matches but nothing new to what I have and have outlined here.
I do however, have a picture of Ann's grave, where I believe Ralph is also buried. The grave is in Wilsontown, Lanarkshire. Around 1846 Ralph and Ann moved from Edinburgh to Biggar, and then again to the Kirkfieldbank/Lesmahagow area.
Regards and thanks for reading,
Reayboy
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Matt
Did you ever check the latest children's birth certs to see what it says regarding parents Ralph and Ann's marriage date and place?
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,301128.0.html
Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Reayboy
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Mary Ann Owens - The bravest woman I never knew
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Hi Monica,
I will be honest I had forgotten I had posted that thread! I have just bought Cathrine's birth certificate and it says that Ralph and Ann married in Edinburgh on April 9 1842. So I will go hunting for that now aswell lol
Thanks...I should have looked on roots for any previous posts before putting up that one.
Matt
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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MonicaLesl
RootsChat Marquessate
Posts: 9030
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None of their pre-1855 children show on the OPRs, so either they weren't registered or they may have belonged to a non Presbyterian denomination (just in case, I've just checked the SP new Roman Catholic records and nothing there).
Have you seen this? http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=*v66t0827&id=I002&ti=5538
I wonder why the person who has put this together thinks Ann was born in Carnwath?
Monica
Added: that link to the Ancestry World Tree is not copying over the whole ref  It is essentially this:
Ralph Abercrombie HASTIE (Archibald HASTIE2, Agnes MARR1) was born 1824 in Edinburgh, and died 19 FEB 1895 in Kirkfieldbank. He married Anne MACKY WFT Est. 1839-1868, daughter of Andrew MCKAY and Jean MARSHALL. She was born 1822 in Carnwath,Lanarkshire, and died 28 NOV 1884 in Kirkfieldbank, Lesmahagow.
Children of Ralph Abercrombie HASTIE and Anne MACKY are:
11 i. Jane HASTIE was born 1843, and died WFT Est. 1844-1937.
12 ii. Mairon HASTIE was born 1845, and died WFT Est. 1846-1939.
13 iii. Andrew HASTIE was born 1847, and died WFT Est. 1848-1937.
+ 14 iv. Archibald HASTIE was born 1849 in Biggar, and died 10 AUG 1909 in Victoria cottage, Easter road, Dykehead, Shotts.
It is following the line of up and down on the son Archilbald Hastie
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Reayboy
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Mary Ann Owens - The bravest woman I never knew
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Hi Monica,
No that doesnt make any sense...the family were around the Carnwath area for a time but on census, Ann is down as being born in Edinburgh.
I have also just come away from trying the RC registers...just in case!  No luck with me either. I alo cannot find the 09/04/1842 marriage of Ralph and Ann. It seems this part of the family do not want to be found.
Is it possible Ann's birth/baptism was not registered and that she kept this trend going when she married Ralph, until reg became compulsory in 1855? I sure hope not! 
Thanks for providing the link to the ancestry page!
From Matt
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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