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Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« on: Friday 30 October 09 20:37 UTC (UK) »
I am looking for any information regarding my Great Great Grandparents
Thomas Goulding was born in County Mayo in approx 1837
His wife Margaret Goulding was born in County Sligo in approx 1841
All i know is they had my Great grandma Margaret-ellen in Burnley in 1881
She was on the 1901 census aged 21
but i cannot find her or her parents in earlier census
Would love to know more about Thomas and Margaret's relatives.
Hope there is someone out there who could help me please
                          Thankyou
                             Kellie-ann
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CaroleW
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:14 UTC (UK) »
In 1891 they are indexed as FOULDEN and image is Foulden.  All children b Burnley

RG12 Piece 3361 Folio 123 Page 55

Thomas   50 b Ireland
Margaret   47 b Ireland
Patrick  23
George  14
Margaret E  11
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:17 UTC (UK) »
In 1881 they are shown as GOLDEN - as per image   www.familysearch.org

In 1871 they are GOULDING

RG10 Piece 4147 Folio 129 Page 46
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »
Marriages September qtr 1868 

Thomas Golden     Burnley  8e 366   
Margaret Granagin   

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
 
Thomas Golden to Margaret GRANAGIN at Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended registers at  Preston RM/25/142
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:28 UTC (UK) »
1861 indexed as Grannaughhan b 1844 and in lodgings in Burnley with (possible sister) Sarah aged 22

RG9 Piece 3067 Folio 33 Page 13

Indexed as GOLDING - Thomas is also in lodgings in Burnley in 1861 aged 19.  There is also a Bridget Golding aged 21

RG9 Piece 3067 Folio 87 Page 28
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:38 UTC (UK) »
The 1851 has 3 possibles for Thomas (nothing for Margaret) but they are all living in Liverpool but all b Ireland

Golden 1839 parents John & Esther

Golden b 1842 parents Thomas & Mary

Golding 1839 mother Margaret
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 October 09 08:57 UTC (UK) »
OMG would you know why they changed there surname twice,because we only ever knew them by the surname of goulding,I really appreciate what you have found out for me so far.
So he would not been known as Thomas Goulding in County Mayo
So was he Thomas Foulden
I am confused Huh
             Thanks Carole
               Kellie
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:12 UTC (UK) »
No it looks like he was Goulding first ,then he was Golden ,then he changed to Foulden later
The 3 options for his parent's my gut instinct is it could be Thomas and Mary though thats just a hunch.
It look's like they came over from Ireland when Thomas was very young according to the census to Liverpool, i am just trying to get my head round it.
Now i am wondering how he met Margaret unless they came over at roughly same time..
My mother is coming round today she is Margater ellen's grand-daughter she will be fascinated with what you have uncovered....
                   Thanks Carole
                           Kellie-ann Grin
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:13 UTC (UK) »
I'd say it's more likely a case of enumerators mishearing or misunderstanding the surname rather an actual name change. Many people could not write so it was up to the enumerator or registrar to write down he heard as their name.



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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 31 October 09 10:45 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Shane i just rung my mother and she said it could of been that her great granparents were unable to read or write so they could of wrote there name incorrectly on each cesus but also what you said makes a lot of sense
Thankyou
      Kellie  Smiley
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Re: Thomas Goulding b.County Mayo moved to Burnley, Lancashire help
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:57 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I've been away for a week so only just picked up on your reply.  Yes - it's a transcription error and they didn't swap surnames.

The Goulding/Golden/Golding is very much down to illiteracy just as Shane has said above. 

If Thomas was unable to write/spell his surname, it would have been written by the enumerator and church officials as it was spoken 
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