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jennyfogarty
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Born in Malta
« on: Friday 30 October 09 21:49 UTC (UK) »
Hi All

I have just started to research my Dad's side of the family and have found my Great Grandfatehr was born in Malta.  My Dad was totally amazed by this - The only reason I can think is that his parents were stationed there with the army.  It was around 1874.  I have checked the birth records on line for Malta but got nothing - anyone have any ideas ? His name was Arthur MacNeice.  I am going to try and get his death cert to see if that helps but in the mean time any help would be great.

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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:54 UTC (UK) »
Is 'Malta' from 1911 census?- might be good idea to check again and make sure it's not a place that looks like Malta!
Death certificate won't list place or exact date of birth so I'm not sure if certificate will help at all.
Do you know the names of the parents? any occupation for other periods for the father? no other foreign born siblings?
If it was an overseas birth the surname might appear with a different spelling making it more difficult to find.
I found some Maltese births in a family I was tracing (slightly earlier, father in Royal Artillery) listed in IGI- www.familysearch.org.
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:59 UTC (UK) »
Thanks so much - the word Malta looks pretty clear see what you think - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Limerick_No__4_Urban/Ascot_Terrace/630242/.  I will check out that link !

I was actually going to get the death cert more for details on his parents as all my information stops with him - I know nothing of his siblings/parents except that they came from Northern Ireland.
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 October 09 22:01 UTC (UK) »
Irish death certificate will not list names of parents either. Just name, date and place and cause of death (perhaps how long with that illness), age in years, sex, marital status, name of informant.

Added- yes very clearly MALTA!
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jennyfogarty
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 October 09 22:04 UTC (UK) »
Ohhh I didn't know that - I thought they listed the parents - Thanks for letting me know that before I go looking for it.  luckily it's not too common a name which may help me.
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 October 09 23:04 UTC (UK) »
Have you looked on the LDS pilot site for marriage or births based on the 1911 census entry?

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=mcneice;givenName=arthur;eventPlace=Ireland;p=recordResults;searchType=standard;placeId=1927084

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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 October 09 08:23 UTC (UK) »
following on from Dara's suggestion, I had a look for the birth of the youngest child - there's only one good match

Name: Alphonsus M Macneice
Registration district: Limerick
Record type: Birth
quarter / year: Jul - Sep 1909
Volume: 5 / Page: 313

a cert for him would confirm Elizabeth's maiden name and should assist in confirming the  marriage, although this looks like a good match from the index :

Name: Arthur M'Neice
Registration district: Limerick
Record type: Marriage
quarter /  year: Jan - Mar 1901
Volume: 5 / Page: 308

Name: Elizabeth O'Connor
(same index details)


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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:24 UTC (UK) »
Hi Shane

Yes that's him thanks as my Dad had remembered Elizabeth's maiden name was O'Connor and Alphonsus (fonz) is quite an unusual name .  So to get that Marriage cert I have to apply through the GRO - right ?

Thanks for your help !
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:34 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: jennyfogarty on Saturday 31 October 09 09:24 UTC (UK)
Hi Shane

Yes that's him thanks as my Dad had remembered Elizabeth's maiden name was O'Connor and Alphonsus (fonz) is quite an unusual name .  So to get that Marriage cert I have to apply through the GRO - right ?

Thanks for your help !

you can order certs from the GRO - see : http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm

make sure to use the index details above, and ignore any other details on the form that dont apply (RSI number etc)


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Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:41 UTC (UK) »
Thanks you are a mine of information !
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 November 09 17:15 UTC (UK) »
MALTA -
the earlier years of birth registrations had a section for Army Births abroad (or something on those lines) - I don't know if that was continued up to 1922, but might be worth looking?

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jennyfogarty
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 01 November 09 21:02 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Guys for all your help -  maybe you can help with one other thing - having trouble reading some of my family's atrocious handwriting.  In the profession section I can read that Daniel Senior is an Army pensioner R.G.A but can't make out the last bit and Daniel Junior I can only make out Clerk.  Any help would be appreciated.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Limerick_No__4_Urban/South_Circular_Road/630444/

Thanks again

Jenny
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 01 November 09 22:47 UTC (UK) »
Weigh-master Dock Harbour Board

(Alderman Dock Ward) Harbour Works Department
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 November 09 14:40 UTC (UK) »
Agree with aghadowey but 1 question:

Could the second one read Dock Yard rather than Dock Ward?

Dara.
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Re: Born in Malta
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 November 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »
Don't think it's yard- thought Dock Ward might refer to that ward in Belfast Limerick.

OOPS- mistake corrected!
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