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Barney123
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Gumble's
« on: Friday 30 October 09 23:03 UTC (UK) »

my great grandfather was levi gumble who married delilah smith-levi's father was john gumle born 1852 lewisham died 1927-he's wife was ada boswell daughter of urania boswell

i know a lot about the smith's and the boswell's i also know about the gumble's up to my geatgranfather levi but thats it....would appreciate any info on the Gumble's

thanks barney
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gortonboy
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 October 09 23:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi,,do you have the 1901 census for levi ?
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 October 09 02:42 UTC (UK) »

Barney; I get the sneaking feeling ye've already got Bob Dawson, " A Romany in the Family " ?

If not, say the word and I'll add what he says on the Gumble name. Basically; South East. He loses track of them in 1906. Ye may well know things he never found out then?
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:22 UTC (UK) »

no have not got that book? or herd of it steve iam like a sponge at the moment so anything would help

   barney


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Barney123
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi,,do you have the 1901 census for levi ?

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Hello there, no i dont what does it say?

thanks barney

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aa1webb
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 October 09 10:22 UTC (UK) »

morning,

have had a look through terence lee's books which state;
ada boswell bc1869 died 1939 with  john gumble (known as jack) bc1858 died 1927 had 8 children according to him, levi, randie, kenzer, lily, bertie, jimmy, rainie & herbert.

do these sound like yours?

hope it helps  Grin
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gortonboy
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 October 09 12:09 UTC (UK) »

 
       

1901 census, living in tents and vans,off wards lane,Ilford, Town ,essex

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13      Piece: 1648      Folio:  50      Page:  42         


SMITH, Rhoda Head Widow  F 50 1851 Licensed Hawker
Blackheath
London

SMITH, Edward Son   M 19 1882 Hawkers Son
Blackheath
London

SMITH, James Son Single  M 22 1879 Hawkers Son
Blackheath
London

SMITH, Thomas Head Married  M 24 1877 Carman General
Chigwell
Essex

SMITH, Harriet Wife Married  F 23 1878
Chigwell
Essex

SMITH, Alie Daughter   F 4 1897
Chigwell
Essex

SMITH, Arthur Head Married  M 31 1870 Pedlar Licensed
Maidstone
Kent

SMITH, Carry Wife Married  F 25 1876
Rochester
Kent


SMITH, Hester Daughter   F 7 1894
Blockheath
London


SMITH, Israel Son   M 3 1898
Blockheath
London


SMITH, Sophia Daughter   F 0 (1 MOS) 1901
Ilford
Essex


LOVERIDGE, Walter Head Married  M 47 1854 Pedlar Licensed
Harpendon
Hertfordshire

LOVERIDGE, Counciletta Wife Married  F 37 1864
Egham
Surrey

LOVERIDGE, Ocean Daughter Single  F 18 1883
Blackheath
London

LOVERIDGE, Kesiah Daughter Single  F 15 1886
Blackheath
London

LOVERIDGE, Albert Son   M 2 1899
Blackheath
London

LOVERIDGE, Frederick Son Single  M 1 1900
Blackheath
London

WEBB, Israel Head Married  M 45 1856 Pedlar Licensed
Blackheath
London

WEBB, Emma Wife Married  F 37 1864
Chatham
Kent

WEBB, Neilus Son Single  M 15 1886
Blackheath
London

WEBB, Sophia Daughter   F 13 1888
Chatham
Kent

WEBB, Clara Daughter   F 10 1891
Blackheath
London

WEBB, Israel Son   M 8 1893
Blackheath
London

GUMBLE, John Head Married  M 49 1852 Hawker Licensed
Lewisham
London

GUMBLE, Ada Wife Married  F 33 1868
Lewisham


GUMBLE, Bertie Son   M 12 1889
Lewisham


GUMBLE, Levi Son   M 10 1891
Lewisham


GUMBLE, Randall Son   M 8 1893
Lewisham


GUMBLE, Keniza Daughter   F 5 1896
Lewisham


GUMBLE, Albert Son   M 2 1899
Lewisham


LAZELL, Lazarus Head Married  M 31 1870 Pedlar Licensed
Maidstone
Kent

LAZELL, Mary Wife Married  F 32 1869
Maidstone
Kent

LAZELL, Mary Daughter   F 12 1889
Maidstone
Kent

LAZELL, Annie Daughter   F 4 1897
Maidstone
Kent

LAZELL, William Son   M 3 1898
Maidstone
Kent

JONES, John Head Widower  M 60 1841 Pedlar Licensed
Mitcham
Surrey

JONES, John Head Married  M 23 1878 Pedlar Licensed
Mitcham
Surrey

JONES, Ada Wife Married  F 22 1879
Leatherhead
Surrey

JONES, John Son   M 3 1898
Leatherhead
Surrey

JONES, Leonard Son   M 1 1900
Leatherhead
Surrey

COOPER, Mathias Head Single  M 23 1878 Pedlar Licensed
Blackheath
London

COOPER, Patience Mother Widow  F 53 1848
N K


COOPER, George Brother Single  M 19 1882 Pedlar Licensed
Blackheath
London

COOPER, Oliver Brother Single  M 17 1884 General Labourer
Blackheath
Kent


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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 October 09 12:14 UTC (UK) »

hi,,i believe that the names in the book do refer to your gumble family,,,as the 1901 census does have john,ada,levi and bertie.....the other children are born after the 1901 census.The family can be found in the 1911 census.
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 October 09 12:52 UTC (UK) »

 Barney; According to Bob, the name Gumble was found being used by Gypsys between 1891 - 1906. In the 'counties' of (deep breath.....) East Anglia, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, London, Middlesex, Norfolk, Suffolk and Sussex.

There. So that might now give ye a geographic feel for them too.
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aa1webb
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 31 October 09 13:19 UTC (UK) »

notes from daily telegraph newspaper;
23/06/1908 ada gumble (40) & ellen lee (40) in reported case of fortune-telling.  Wink

believe ada & john/jack were living at belvedere. (england)

he is buried plumstead cemetry norton road belvedere

thats it im afraid, but if i find any more i will let you know.  Cheesy
just to add that at times i have seen their surname down as gumbill/gumbrill/gamble/gumball in some census so may be worth doing a search with different spelling variations. kushti bok
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 07 November 09 16:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Barney
I have come across Levi Gumble & Delilah in my notes today

Levi Gumble bn. 1887,   bp.14/07/1885 at Orpington, d. 21/02/1970
married Delilah Smith (daughter of James edmunton) 13/02/1915 All Saints

Parents:
Ada Boswell bc.1869
John 'jack' Gumble

Ada's parents:
Urania Lee  1851 (Queen of the Gypsies)
Levi Boswell  1847


Urania's parents:
Abraham Lee  1930
Mary Smith ('Pol')



Hope it helps, thats all I have.
Donna
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Barney123
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 November 09 18:18 UTC (UK) »

thank you donna i have most of that info....i would love to know who john gumbles parents are?

great photo donna
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Re: Gumble's
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 November 09 23:07 UTC (UK) »

No real Info for you however i can confirm that i am a current decendent of part of the Gumble family that originally came from norfolk, suffolk area however they traveled as far south as london and possibly kent so that may explain why the name seems so spread out.
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