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algy
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occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury COMPLETE
« on: Saturday 31 October 09 07:51 UTC (UK) »
I am probably asking for a big slice of someones time, I am researching the occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury Cheshire as I served my time as a blacksmith there 1955 to 1961, it is no longer a working smithy and is operating as a mowing machine sales & repair business, I have spoken to the present owners without success, in fairness they have helped as much as they possibly can, if anyone could please check the censuses from 1841 to 1891 (excluding 1881 as Lizzie kindly gave me information for that year) it is only a small village and probably never had more than 150 people living there. The Cheshire Tithe maps 1836 - 1851 give a James Hamblett as the occupier but obviously no further details.
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Algy
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tazzie
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:55 UTC (UK) »


  Hi Algy.....

  Going back to 1871 first...

The Blacksmith Shop Daresbury

Isaac Ellison hd m 70 blacksmith empl. 2men & 2boys Ches. Preston Brook
Martha         wi m 70                                         Ches. Sutton by Frodsham
Martha Ann g/dau u 17                                     Ches. Chester
Robert    Oulton     app. u 17 blacksmith app.   Ches. Latchford
John Jackson         app u 15       "       "             Ches. Runcorn.

further down same page the family from 1881

  John Ellison hd m 42 blacksmith   Ches. Sutton by Frodsham
  Elizabeth     wi m 41                     Midd.  Stepney
  Harriet A Jones niece 7 months     Ches. Grappenhall/

All at   RG10/3689 F 4 PAGE 2.

   Tazzie
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tazzie
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 October 09 10:00 UTC (UK) »


   1861.....

  Still Isaac....

  Isaac Ellison hd m 60 blacksmith    Ches. Preston Brook
  Martha          wi m 60                      Ches. Sutton
  John            son u 32 blacksmith        "         "
  Thomas       son u 21 painter & plumber   Ches. Sutton
  Hannah       dau u 18                                   "          "

  Blacksmith Cottage  Daresbury Ches.  RG9/2596 F 3 PAGE 2

  Tazzie
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 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
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tazzie
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 October 09 10:23 UTC (UK) »


   1841 does not state smithy or blacksmith in any address but there are 2 blacksmiths in the village both Hamblett's

  Richard Hamblet 35 blacksmith born in county
  Ann                      35                     "     "      "
  Peter                     4                      "     "      "
  Mary                      2                      "     "      "
  all at    HO107/95 BOOK 5 DIST 8 F3 PAGE 19

  and.........

  James Hamblet 70 blacksmith born in county
  Robert                30 ag lab          "     "      "
  Harriet                   8                    "     "      "
  at HO107/95 BOOK 5 DIST8 F 3 PAGE 22
   
   Tazzie
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 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
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tazzie
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 October 09 10:49 UTC (UK) »



   1891..... The Smithy Daresbury

  John Ellison hd m 62  blacksmith Ches. Sutton
  Elizabeth     wi m  61                    London Stepney

  RG12/2830 F 4 PAGE 2

  1901 John & Elizabeth are both still in the village John now listed as retired.
   RG13/3332 F 5 PAGE 2
The working blacksmith is Hill....... just listed as Daresbury cottage again not smithy or blacksmith shop ......

  William Hill hd m 39 blacksmith employer     Ches. Runcorn
  Georgina    wi m 35                                       Staff. Kings Bromley
  John W      son u 4                                              Ches. Newton by Daresbury
  George Taylor serv u 18 blacksmiths app.    Preston Brook.
  RG13/3332 F 5 PAGE 1

   Tazzie

  RG13
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algy
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 October 09 13:06 UTC (UK) »
Tazzie thank you fro your kind assistance, would it be too much to ask you to look at the 1851 census as it is the only decade that I am missing.
Thank you again.
Algy.
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tazzie
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 October 09 16:18 UTC (UK) »


  Hi .....

been out but have now got 1851 ....

  Daresbury

Isaac Eliison hd m 50 master blacksmith Ches. Preston Brook
Martha         wi u        blacksmiths wife   Ches. Sutton
John            son u 22 blacksmith son          "        "
Martha        dau u  16 dressmaker              "        "
Thomas       son u 10 scholar                      "         "
Hannah        dau u 7 scholar                       "         "
Richard Brazendale app u 15 blacksmiths app. Ches. Daresbury.
at ho107/2164 f 210 p 5
  also in Daresbury is ......

  Richard Hamblett hd m 47 journeyman blacksmith Ches. Danesbury
  Ann                      wi m 49   blacksmith wife            Ches. Latchford
  Peter                  son u 14  scholar                         Ches. Danesbury
  Mary                   dau u 11  scholar                         Ches. Danesbury
  Alice                    dau u 6   scholar                         Ches. Danesbury
at HO107/2164 F 210 P 4.

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tazzie
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 October 09 16:29 UTC (UK) »


  Where there are the two blacksmiths in the early census this may help...

  1841   Hambletts in village
             Isaac Ellison in Runcorn
1851   Hamblett blacksmith               1861   Ellison   Blacksmith cottage
            house occ                                                        house occ
            village farm                                                    village farm
            house occ                                                      house occ
           Isaac Ellison & fam occ                                   house occ
                                                                     Hamblett Richard's family
may help pin point the correct position of the smithy as they both traded seperately.
                              Tazzie
             
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 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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algy
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Re: occupiers of the smithy in Daresbury
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 October 09 17:40 UTC (UK) »
Tazzie thank you for all the work, time and information I really could not have done it without you, I have achieved my objective and have sufficient information to complete a potted history of Daresbury smithy.
All the very best to you and all you care for.
Algy.
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