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Topic: Elizabeth PATERNOSTER - Campsea Ash (Read 179 times)
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hepburn
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IGI batch number co 62901.
These are the childrens baptisms for William Paternoster and wife Mary Turtle. Campsea ash.
Susan 1825
John 1815
Mary 1810
Mary 1813
William 1810
Thomas 1817......No Elizabeth
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,
Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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hepburn
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IGI extracted marriage entry....Elizabeth Paternoster to Jonathan May,Sept 1836 Campsea ash...
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,
Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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Jetstream
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Thanks for the reply's. Again, no Elizabeth, but I'm certain that this is the correct Paternoster.
Re.marriage to Jonathan May 1836. I was aware of this marriage, but this introduces a problem. Elizabeth had two children, John and Mary Goodwyn, both Paternosters who were illigitimate, born prior to May 1836. However, on the marriage certs. of these two children, they both give Father as John Paternoster. This seems to not be correct, as this is telling an untruth twice. I think the middle name of the Daughter - Goodwyn - maybe a clue. The Goodwyns were farmers, and perhaps were supporting the illigitimate child, hence no Bastardy Order.
Thanks for all your help.
Nick Robinson
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Kent Family - East London, Cornwall and Northamptonshire
Paternoster - Suffolk
Lester-Essex
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trish1120
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1851 census has Elizabeth (May) as the daughter of William.
1851 Census
Campsey Ash, Suffolk
HO107/1802/331/14
William PATERNOSTER, 67, Head of Family, Widower, Harness Maker, born Marlesford
Elizabeth MAY, 39, Daug, Widow, Harness makers Daughter, born Campsey Ash
William PATERNOSTER, 30, Son, U, Harness Makers Son, born Campsey Ash
Mary PATERNOSTER, 15, Daug, U, Harness Makers Grand-Daughter, born Campsey Ash
Trish
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Annette7
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I'm wondering if the baptism of a 2nd Mary on 1/1/1813 is a mistake by the vicar and should in fact be Elizabeth. The NBI shows the burial of Mary Paternoster aged 15 on 30/7/1826. This ties in exactly with the Mary who was born 2/9/1810, bp.30/9/1810 who would indeed have been 15 if she died in July 1826.
Annette
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Scopes (One-Name Study - Worldwide) Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat London - Monk Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend. Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Annette7
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Sorry - I should have stated that this burial was at Campsea Ash.
Annette
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Scopes (One-Name Study - Worldwide) Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat London - Monk Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend. Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Jetstream
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Thanks for all the replies.
Trish,
Thankyou for the 1851 Census extract. This all ties in, as the Wife of William passed away around 1845.
Mary, daughter is there, at the right age, but Son John is missing. I think he married in 1862. Perhaps he was away at the time of Census.
Annette,
Thankyou for your reply. I thought the same as you, that maybe Mary should have been Elizabeth. Mistakes were made, as I have found out during my research. My problem, at the moment, is that if facts do not tie in with what I think happened, then I assume a mistake has been made.
The whole episode with Elizabeth Paternoster has been a bit shady, and unfortunately, I shall never no the truth.
Many thanks for your replies, this has given me something to think about.
Nick Robinson
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Kent Family - East London, Cornwall and Northamptonshire
Paternoster - Suffolk
Lester-Essex
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