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Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« on: Saturday 31 October 09 17:46 UTC (UK) »

Hello, could anyone help me by looking up the birth of WILLIAM PENNERTON abt 1817. His birth and marriage surname is Pennerton, but by the 1841C it had changed to Penington. Thanks.
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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 October 09 18:57 UTC (UK) »

Closest I could find...

William Pennington  Bapt  17 Mar 1816     George Pennington, Ann Pennington@ Saint Dunstan And All Saints (Tower Hamlets)
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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 October 09 20:09 UTC (UK) »

According to his 1839 marriage to Julia Cain, his father's name was also William.

Despite marrying in an Anglican Church, is there any chance Julia (from Ireland) was Catholic?

I can't find Anglican baptisms for any of the children on the 1861 census.

Could William also have been Catholic?

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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 October 09 20:28 UTC (UK) »

Theres this one.

William Pennington born 20th May, 1817, bap. 12th August, 1827.
father William, a mariner, mother Elizabeth.
St. John Wapping.
They were living in the parish  of St. Dunstan, Stepney.
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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 October 09 21:50 UTC (UK) »

Thank you all so much.
I haven't been able to find anything about Julia Cain other than she was born in Cork. I'm not aware of any Catholicism in the family, but could be interesting to find out.  I'm slightly confused, dawnsh could you tell me if your info about his marriage has Williams surname spelt Pennerton as suffolk*sue has the same birth year as I have, but the different spelling. Thanks.
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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 November 09 10:57 UTC (UK) »

The parish clerk has written the surname as Pennerton for both William and his father as per your 1st post.

However, the bride, groom and witnesses all made there marks 'X' where a signature was required.

Interestingly, when their sons John and Joseph (both Pennington) married on the same day, 4th June 1876 at St James Shoreditch, most of the signatures were marks 'X', indicating a level of illiteracy within the family.

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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 November 09 11:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi

On the 1839 marriage William's father's occupation is given as labourer, which of course doesn't mean he wasn't a mariner twenty years earlier, or confirms that he was still alive in 1839.

1841 and William and Julia were in Limehouse where they are on censuses at least until 1861. This might be a possibility for William senior in the Stepney area, but a bit old for a father and a mariner in 1817.

1841 census HO107 714/8 folio 5
Ratcliff workhouse
William Pennington 75 Labourer not born Middlesex

Perhaps significant he was buried in Limehouse.

Burial
St Anne, Limehouse 27th May 1847
William Pennington 81 years Limehouse. Funeral service performed by the Curate of Stepney.


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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 November 09 22:25 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks,
 I am still digesting the info given which is interesting, but dawnsh you have set up another  query for me to go into. You have JOSEPH [son of William & Julia] marrying in 1876. I have only found one child Joseph William b. 1880 for Joseph, but he was then about 37 [which was quite old for a first] He had married  Jane Emma Kidman in 1878, but I then found him married to Mary on the 1871C. It now looks as though he was married three times; to Mary from sometime before 1871 until before 1876.  then to ?? from 1876  [the marriage you found] to sometime before 1878 and then Jane Emma 1878.  Thanks again.
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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 November 09 20:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi

St Peter Stepney 2nd December 1878
Joseph Pennington Full Age Bachelor Sewerman St Peter Stepney William Pennington Sewerman
Jane Emma Kidman Spinter St Peter Stepney Henry Kidman Matmaker
Marriage by banns both signed by making their marks
Witnesses J Strutt and Emma Conell?

1881 census RG11 465 folio 115
46 Maroon Street Limehouse
Joseph L. Pennington 35 Head Married Sewer Lab (Drainage serv) Limehouse Middlesex
Jane Pennington 27 Wife Married Ratcliff Middlesex
Joseph L. Pennington Son 5 months Limehouse Middlesex

1871 census RG10 487 folio ?
8 Darling Row Bethnal Green
Joseph Pennington 28 Head Married Sewerman Limehouse Middlesex
Mary Pennington 25 Wife Married Bethnal Green
William Pennington 60 Father Widower Labourer Limehouse Middlesex

There doesn't seem to be a marriage for Joseph and Mary so they may have just been living together as man and wife and then went their separate ways.

4th June 1876 St Leonard Shoreditch
Joseph Pennington 32 Bachelor Labourer 86 East Stret Mile End William Pennington Labourer
Jemima Corby 32 Spinster 2 Foster Street Mile End Thomas Corby Shoemaker
By Banns both signed by making their marks
Witnesses Thomas Canterford? and Emma Richards

Deaths Mar 1877  Pennington  Jemima  32  Mile End  1c 343


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Re: Birth Look Up At St Anne, Limehouse Please.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 17:01 UTC (UK) »

Once again, many thanks for finding that info for me. I did know that the 1881C have Joseph L. for father & son, but all other census just have the  son [b. 1880] having William as a middle name. Thanks again.
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