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Rah1980
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John Roberts abt 1829 father Evan in Bryneglwys
« on: Saturday 31 October 09 19:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I am trying to trace John Roberts who married Mary Price in Brynford in 1853. On the marriage cert he states he lived in Bryneglwys and is a shop keeper. Evan Roberts a butcher is down as his father. I can't locate either of them so any help would be much appreciated. It is possible John had a brother called David as there was a David Roberts as a witness, and I know that the other witness was Mary's sister.

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Sarah  Grin
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Flintshire/Denbighshire Parry, Price, Lloyd, Jones, Williams, Roberts, Ellis, Holland and Davies. Mostly from Brynford area. Clark & Duff (Scotland). Find my tree on ancestry rah1980, will help if i can.
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Re: John Roberts abt 1829 father Evan in Bryneglwys
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 November 09 01:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi  Sarah

This looks like John at King Street, Mold Flintshire in 1851 
Ref HO107/2501/621/30
John ROBERTS, Un, age 21, Servant to Grocer & Provisioner, born Bryn Eglwys, Denbs.

Also in 1851 his parents at Casgin Highgate, Talybidwel, Merioneth (part of Bryn Eglwys Parish)
Evan ROBERTS, mar, head, age 45, dealer in pigs, born Bryn Eglwys Denbs.
Mary ROBERTS, mar, wife, age 45, born Bryn Eglwys Denbs.
Price ROBERTS, age 11, son, born Flintshire
Morris ROBERTS, age 3, son, born Bryn Eglwys

In 1841 the family are together at Ty Drau.  Bryn Eglwys
HO107/1405/3/13/5/2
Evan ROBERTS, age 35, Farmer,  born in county
Marry ROBERTS, age 35 born in county
John ROBERTS, age 12 born in county
Marry ROBERTS, age 9 born in county
Dawid ROBERTS, age 6, born in county
Evan ROBERTS, age 4, born in county
Price ROBERTS, age 1, not born in county
Marry EVANS, age 65, Ind, not born in county

In 1841 at the bottom of the previous page (same image) there is this couple at Bryn Tangor, Bryn Eglwys
John ROBERTS, age 65 Farmer, born in county
Jane ROBERTS, age 65, born in county
John ROBERTS, age 10, not born in county
John JONES, age 20, MS (male servant) born in county
Margaret JONES, age 65,  FS born in county
Miriam ROBERTS, age 20, FS not born in county
Maria EDWARDS, age 13, FS born in county

From the Bryn Eglwys parish register transcripts courtesy of Clwyd FHS
Evan ROBERTS baptized March 7, 1804, son of John ROBERTS & Jane, Bryntangor

There is also this possible marriage by Licence at Bryn Eglwys
April 15, 1800
John ROBERTS, Widower
Jane EVANS X, Widow
Both of the parish
Witnessed by John Edwards & Margaret Jones

added:  A copy of this licence can be obtained from the National Library of Wales 
EVANS, Jane, wid., Bryneglwys, DEN.  1800, Mar 29.  At B.  John Roberts.  A,B.  137/58.

Heather


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Re: John Roberts abt 1829 father Evan in Bryneglwys
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 November 09 07:53 UTC (UK) »

Cheers Heather, that is very detailed thank you, I hope it is them! I was struggling because my knowledge of that area is somewhat lacking! Thanks for the effort  Grin
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Flintshire/Denbighshire Parry, Price, Lloyd, Jones, Williams, Roberts, Ellis, Holland and Davies. Mostly from Brynford area. Clark & Duff (Scotland). Find my tree on ancestry rah1980, will help if i can.
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