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Topic: William H. & Maria CLARK Parents of William Born in Beccles (Read 526 times)
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clarkej
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Hello,
Yes, I have a copy of my Great Grandfathers Marriage Certificate. He "William" Clark married a Laura Baker (she was born Hertingfordbury1859) in Ware Parish Church, Hertfordshire 2 Jan 1881 before they set of for India a few months later with the Army.
From that document, I had his fathers name "William H. clark" and his Trade "Gardner" but now have his mother and borthers names "Maria" and "Henry" from his Army record.
I couldnt find them anywhere when I looked but really want to see if we do in fact originate from Suffolk or can go back further.
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Looking back on my Paternal line at present:-
Clark'e' family from Suffolk
these families are linked by Marriage:-
Hopkins - Erith, Kent
King - East-end, London
Baker - Ware, Herts
Burgess, Suffolk
Tuthill, Suffolk
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Looks like your man and Laura left the country before the 1881 census - were they back in 1891 or 1901 or 1911 ? (Kent you mentioned)
I couldnt see the 1881 marriage you detail in the GRO Indexes?
Anyways .....................
This is interesting - some matches show up, and the fact they are in Ware ...
1881 - RG11/1399; Folio: 137; Page: 44 - Great Amwell, Ware, Herts
Amwell: 2, The Firs
William H. Clark MARRIED 46 Head Coachman Suffolk, Willingham
Maria Clark 43 Servant Suffolk, Coveleigh?
Mary E. Clark 15 dau Suffolk, Kentford (prob Mutford to match 1871)
Henry Clark 13 son born Suffolk, Beccles
Charles Clark 10 do
Frederick J. Clark 6 son Herts, Broxbourne
Arthur J. Clark son Great Amwell
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1861 - RG9/1185; Folio: 36; Page: 8 - Beccles
just William and Maria, no kids .... and he's a Maltsters Labourer
possible marriage - Wangford is the right District for Beccles ..
Marriages Dec 1860
Burgess Maria Wangford v4a p1521
Clarke William do
Hindes Sarah Ann do
Mills Mark do
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1871 - RG10/1776; Folio: 117; Page: 18 - Beccles
Newgate Street
William Clarke 36 Head Maltsters Labourer Willingham
Maria Clarke 34 Wife Cove Heath?
Maria Clarke 9 dau Beccles
William Clarke 7 son Mutford?
Mary E Clarke 5 dau do
Harriet Henry Clarke 3 son Beccles
Frederick Clarke 10 months son do
some inconsistencies there ! compared with 1881 .... until I realised that Harriet was shown as a son, and some attempt at overwriting the name !
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could be your man ...
Births Mar 1864
CLARKE William Minister Wangford vol 4a page 725
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Finally, William H takes up Gardening in 1891 - his Missus Maria becomes the Postmistress ..
1891 - RG12/1092; Folio 127; Page 12 - Great Amwell
London Road (Post Office)
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suffolkmawther
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I think that Maria originates from Covehithe, a coastal village which is fast disappearing due to erosion of the coastline in north-east Suffolk.
Willingham is a parish just inland from Covehithe.
Pat ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived in Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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clarkej
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Hello again,
Thank you for these great matches and your kind assistance.
Going back to the Post 3. I've just noticed I typed 1881 for the date of marrige in Ware for William Clark and Laura Baker. Apologies, that should have been 2nd Jan 1884.
As to when they came home from India. Laura and the Children which was Florence, James, Percy, Victor (My Grandfather), Gladys are registered in the 1901 census as living in Leighton Road , Dover, Kent but William was in South Africa fighting in the Boer War until 1902.
Looking at the replies, I've got a really good feeling that the William Henry Clark from Willingham and Maria from Covehithe could indeed be my Great, Great, Grandparents.... This is really exciting. :-)
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Looking back on my Paternal line at present:-
Clark'e' family from Suffolk
these families are linked by Marriage:-
Hopkins - Erith, Kent
King - East-end, London
Baker - Ware, Herts
Burgess, Suffolk
Tuthill, Suffolk
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annes
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Taken from Beccles parish register:
William Clarke - full age - bachelor - labourer - otp
Maria Burgess - full age - spinster - servant - otp
By banns
28th October 1860
Fathers: Henry Clarke - labourer, Charles Burgess - labourer
He signed, she signed X
Witnesses: Martin Sutton, Charlotte Sutton
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annes
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I also tried to look for the baptisms of their children but could only find the following:
Maria 13th December 1861 at Beccles (father = maltster)
Charles born 24th May baptised 5th June 1870 at Beccles (father = labourer)
I looked at Mutford parish registers also, but unfortunately couldn't find any of the other baptisms.
Regards
Anne
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clarkej
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Wow thanks Anne, thanks everyone... So it looks like I have the following:-
William Clark (born Beccles, Suffolk 1860) + Laura Baker (Hertingfordbury, Herts 1860) then...
"Father" William Henry Clarke (born Wallingham, Suffolk 1835) + "Mother" Maria Burgess (Born Covehithe, Suffolk 1837) and possibly the rest of Williams' family from the census's Then...
Possibly their fathers/my Great, Great, Great Grandfathers Henry Clarke and Charles Burgess.
This is wonderful... I'm wondering if there any likelihood I can go back further or do you think that the evidence is saying my "Clark(e)" roots are definately in Suffolk and East Anglia? I suppose its looking that way. 
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Looking back on my Paternal line at present:-
Clark'e' family from Suffolk
these families are linked by Marriage:-
Hopkins - Erith, Kent
King - East-end, London
Baker - Ware, Herts
Burgess, Suffolk
Tuthill, Suffolk
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1851 - HO107/1803; Folio: 925; Page: 2 - Covehith, Blything District
Charles Burgess 46 Head Ag Labourer Suffolk, Wrentham
Mary Burgess 46 Wife Covehithe
Mary Anne Burgess 20 dau do
Henry Burgess 17 son born Wrentham
Sarah Burgess 15 dau Covehith
Maria Burgess 13 dau do
James Burgess 8 son do
William Burgess 4 son do
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1851 - HO107/1804; Folio: 484; Page: 7 - Willingham, Wangford District
near Cluttens Farm
George Tuthill 63 Head Ag Lab Wrentham
Mary Tuthill 59 Wife born Barsham
William Clark 16 Grandson Ap Team Man born Willingham
1841 doesnt throw any more light on things ...
1841 - HO107/1040/Book 14; Parish of Willingham; District: 20; Folio: 5; Page: 4
all state 'born in County'
George Tuthill 54 Ag Lab
Mary Tuthill 49 do
Mary Tuthill 19 do
William Clark 6 Pauper
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) named Wm and Maria in Beccles area in 1861 and 1871 (at least) - but they both are Maltsters Labourers and the ages of sons dont match your man ...