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islaruth
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Hello, I'm trying to locate a Benjamin BUTLER who [/i]might[i] have hailed from West Bridgeford, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE. He was married to Anne Farral ( a Flintshire lass I think ) in 1773 and lived in Flintshire with his 6 children. There are no couples living in the Hanmer area of Flintshire who produced Benjamin. I do not know the names of his parents. Does anyone have this family in their tree who might be able to shed some light on Benjamin please?
Thank you
Islaruth
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islaruth
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Hello, I'm so sorry if I've inadvertently done the wrong thing .... that folk have to be warned about me? It was suggested by a member of Ancestry that I join & contact the 3 areas where we might find our Benjamin Butler .... Berkshire, West Yorkshire or Notts. We really have hit a brick wall so to speak. Then if anything looked promising, we'd consider an actual trip to the relevant Records Office. So once again, I'm sorry if I should have kept my posting to just one area. I obviously haven't got my head around the way this site operates .... I thought each County was independent, not realising that each of my 3 posts would be read by everyone.
Apologies once again.
Kind regards
Islaruth
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Pels.
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Oh heck you mustn't apologise, you haven't done anything wrong. The reason I did that .. is sometimes people duplicate information. For example one person might spend hours looking for something that someone has already found on the duplicate thread. This can be extremely frustrating when it it turns out their time has been wasted.
One idea might be .. if you wish to post something that is more general to several counties you can always post these on the England Board. Or post a link as I did, which lets others know it has been posted elsewhere.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,1.0.html
This is a fantastic site, I'm sure you'll enjoy it Islaruth !! 
Best wishes,
Pels.
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Annie65115
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There was a Butler/Buttler couple, Benjamin and Isibello, who had 2 sons baptised Benjamin in West Bridgford in 1735 and 1739. I don't know of course if this was your Benjamin but hope this might be of some help.
edited to add - the first Benjamin presumably died. There's no record on the CD of any marraige in the whole county of the second Benjamin Butler to any Ann at any point, though Benjamin (snr) and Isabel's marraige is listed in 1731.
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Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Dyer (Stathern, Leic, Notts, Yorks)
Kilner (Leic)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Tidd (Grantham, Notts)
Hallam (Screveton)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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islaruth
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Thank you so much for that! We've really hit a brick wall with our Benjamin. We've visited several Records Offices but as we're relatively new to this, we're struggling to know how to prove ( or disprove ! ) that any other Benjamin Butler in other counties is or isn't ours !!! Detailed process of elimination ?? We shall add your information into the mixing pot!
Thank you again
Kind regards
Islaruth
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Annie65115
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I am not well up on the technical terms, but have you tried looking at the records office which covers Flintshire to see if there is any record of settlement there for Benjamin? If one can be found, it will tell you where he was previously or originally from.
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Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Dyer (Stathern, Leic, Notts, Yorks)
Kilner (Leic)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Tidd (Grantham, Notts)
Hallam (Screveton)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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islaruth
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Hi there, thanks for your reply. I'm visiting the Flintshire records office .... yet again .... on Wednesday. A record of settlement ....mm ... is that a particular document? I've never heard of that, it sounds VERY useful! I shall enquire when I go. Thank you !!
Kind regards
Islaruth
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Annie65115
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Others will know far more about this and be able to explain it better than me but basically everyone had right of residence/settlement somewhere, basically to decide which parish would provide you with parish relief if you fell on hard times.
So if Benjamin was born in parish A, he would almost certainly have had a right to parish relief there, but if he moved to parish B as an adult he could apply for settlement there (criteria for being accepted varied with era). The applicant would have a verbal examination by parish worthies and if their applictaion was successful, a document would be issued to that effect, giving them the right of abode in the area and the right to claim parish relief there should they need it.
I found one such document for one of my ancestors, dated 1756, which gave his new place of abode and various details of his family, and was addressed to the parish worthies of his previous abode -- so it was an absolute gem!
Sorry to be rather vague about the terms etc used, as I say others will be able to explain much better than I have. but you can see that if your ancestor applied for residence in Flintshire, there may be some very useful evidence at the record office.
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Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Dyer (Stathern, Leic, Notts, Yorks)
Kilner (Leic)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Tidd (Grantham, Notts)
Hallam (Screveton)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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islaruth
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Golly, that sounds THE business !!! Thanks for alerting me to the existence of such a document .... told you I was new to all this! I'll most certainly ask about it when I visit on Wednesday .... fingers crossed .... and thanks again!
Islaruth
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