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Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« on: Monday 02 November 09 05:26 UTC (UK) »

I found records for my great-great grandmother and her two children going through Ellis Island in 1908 (Liverpool to NY) to be with my great-great grandfather who was already there.

Their name is listed as ‘Bromwick’ on the ship's manifest; however, the name is actually ‘Bromnick’. 

GG Grandfather was in  NY, c/o someone at 17 Orchard Street NY.  I can’t read the name on the ship’s manifest who lives at that address and I can’t find any way to search by address (I can on the UK census). 

Could someone please help me find the name of the family at 17 Orchard Street in 1908? Perhaps from the 1910 census?

I suspect… this was a family member and the name would help with search into the ‘old country’  - Russia. And it could help to figure out what happened to the family in NY - they left my Great Grandfather in England and we have lost the family members that travelled to NY.

Many Thanks! Lynn

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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 November 09 05:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lynn, welcome to RootsChat.

It looks like Rosa/Rose Bromwick was going to join "husband Mayer? Bromwick 17 Orchard Str New York, NY".

Sorry, just read the information found under that name.  I am having difficulty as well.  It looks like "father c/o M Gershouivitz.

I'll have a look around on the census.
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:01 UTC (UK) »

Rosa Bramnick was travelling again, arriving 24 September 1910, New York, New York.  Departed Southampton, England on board the St. Louis.
Accompanying her were Jacob (age 11), born England, and Sarah (age 10), born England.  Rosa was born in Russia.

Name/address of nearest relative in country whence alien came: Son Mr. L? Bramnick, 16 Josephine House ?

They were returning to New York, Husband Mr. M. Bramnick, 52 Ridge St. New York.

She was born in Kuastantine?
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:16 UTC (UK) »

The Orchard and Ridge addresses are about 1/2 mile apart.

Would you have Rosa's husband's name, please?  If possible, his date of birth and place of birth, as well?  I can have a look for him in 1910.  Perhaps he might still be at the Orchard address.
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:25 UTC (UK) »


Wow… thank you for the response! Definitely same family. Although I can’t find any information on Myer going to NY. They were all in England during the 1901 UK Census.

So now I have an address in NY 52 Ridge Street, that’s great.

The son on the information you sent me, is her oldest son Lewis Bromnick (correct name) – 16 Josephine House – YES – this is my GG Grandfather and my Granddad was born at 16 Josephine House.

Konstantin (Starokonstantinov, Volhynia, Russia) which is modern day Starokostyantyniv, Ukraine. – correct.

Thank you for this. I have still not been able to find death records for Myer or Jacob in US. Both had passed by 1916. Sarah married William Brontman and we have made contact with those family members. They have no information further back than Myer and Rose/Rosa; however, it is thought that at the same time (or there about) that Myer and Rose immigrated to England, one or both of them had siblings that went to NY. That’s why we think there was so much back and forth between England and NY (Lewis travelled back and forth also)?

Thank you so much for your help!

Lynn

   

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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:30 UTC (UK) »

Rosa's husband as mentioned above is Myer (possibly Mayer or Meyer). Year of birth 1856 +/- 1 year.
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:32 UTC (UK) »

I noticed a Lewis travelling.  Do you have his immigration records?  If not, would you like his information?
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:43 UTC (UK) »

Lewis immigration records? He stayed in england. Do you mean his records from Russia to England? We have information on him going back and forth between England and NY.  I also have some details about a Chaim Bromnik going to New York. He is from Konstantin also. I have no further details. There may or may not be a connection. He arrived 1909 and was 33. This could be an older brother of my Great Grandfather or perhaps a cousin? - I have no proof that there is a connection though.
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:46 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, I meant Lewis' passenger records.  I believe I saw his name a couple of times, travelling from England to America.
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:49 UTC (UK) »

An interesting little bit of trivia. If you Google 'Bromnick', every of them is on our family tree under Myer and Rose. A number of the long lost cousins (no longer lost) have had work published.
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #10 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:53 UTC (UK) »

If you don't mind, yes... we have one trip with him accompanying his younger sister but if you have another, yes - I'd like it.

Thanks Lisa,

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1448944&l=afe3677127&id=733925079
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:56 UTC (UK) »

I have been looking around the internet.  Wink  Grin

I tried searching 1910 again, looking for the gentleman on Orchard Street.  No luck yet, but after scanning names (and seeing the variety of spellings), I checked the 1908 passenger list again.

His name could be M Gershonivitz.  Will continue to look at the 1910 census.

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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:57 UTC (UK) »

Our postings crossed...

very nice photo.  You are lucky to have it.  Smiley
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 November 09 06:59 UTC (UK) »

Thank you so much.

Unfortunately, I have to go to bed now... this is so addictive! I'll check bac tomorrow.

Good night!

L.
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Re: Bromnick family immigration - NY Info needed
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 November 09 07:03 UTC (UK) »

Sorry I haven't found anything.  I will continue to look for a bit more.  Perhaps if I don't find anything, someone else might!
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