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Topic: Kibbles in N.Z. (Read 199 times)
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hazelmoore
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In my tree I have a Rosina Kibble b.15.5.1876 who emigrated to N.Z. on July 24th 1907 on the Corinthic and apparently settled in Wellington. I haven't been able to find either a Marriage or Death entry on BDM N.Z. Is there anywhere else I can look? She had a sister, Lilian Maud (Lily) b.1888 who, it would seem, followed her (I can't find find her emigration) and married Augustus John Diddell in 1923/10283. (Any way I could find their children?) She also had a brother, Archibald, who emigrated with his wife Elizabeth in the 20s and, although I have found their later returns from trips to England, I can't find their emigration date. Is there any other way of finding out what happened to them and maybe find some cousins?!
Thank you in advance to anyone who can point me in the right direction.
Hazel
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Williams (Llansanffraid, Denbighs and Bala, Merionethshire)
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Kibble, Dallaway, Miller, Batten
Herring, Rossiter, Rochford
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Lucy2
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Hi Hazel
Just for starters, the following appears to be Rosina's marriage.
Rosina KIBBLE - William Ernest WILLIAMS - 1907
I'll see what else I can find.
Lu
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Lucy2
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--- this looks like Rosina's death ?
1969 - WILLIAMS - Rosina - aged 92 - (born circa 1877)
Can't find her in Wellington cemeteries ... but still looking.
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hazelmoore
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Hi Lu
Good Heavens! It looks like she married her 1st cousin born 1876 in Manchester, brother to my Grandmother!! She was sister to John Robert Kibble who married my Grandmother's sister Edith - so no, they weren't cousins, but brothers and sisters in law? I am amazed nobody of our generation knew about this!! I always wondered where William Ernest had disappeared to!! Please tell me where you found these in case I need Certificates!
Thank you very much indeed - if you found any children, I would be ecstatic!!!
Hazel
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Lucy2
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Hi Hazel
The deaths of Rosina and William Ernest WILLIAMS appear on the NZ BDM Historical Index.
http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/
Unfortunately, place of death is not recorded on the index - but can be ascertained by viewing the microfiche record of Death Index (held at libraries in NZ).
I'm still looking to see if I can find cemetery records though.
Lu
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Lucy2
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--- Are you still wanting information for Lilian Maud KIBBLE and her husband ? The surname "DIDDLE" is proving a little difficult. 
Lu
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hazelmoore
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Yes please! According to the BDM it is Diddell!! I realise Williams children will be difficult to find but maybe Diddell will be easier!
Are there any electoral rolls or Directories or Phone Books that might give some clue about their families? Also Archibald and Elizabeth...
Thank you again for your time
Hazel
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Kibble, Dallaway, Miller, Batten
Herring, Rossiter, Rochford
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newbe_nz
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Lilliam Maud KIBBLE married Augustus John DIDDELL in 1923 Folio 4832.
Source: NZSG Marriage CD
Hope this helps
Regards
Newbe
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newbe_nz
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Lilliam Maud DIDDELL died 1974
She is buried at the Dannervirke - Mangatera Cemetery.
This is from the NZSG Burial Locator CD V2
It says there is a monumental inscription
Not sure if they are on-line
Newbe
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hazelmoore
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Hi Newbe
Thank you for that. Is the Cemetery in Wellington?
Hazel
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Kibble, Dallaway, Miller, Batten
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newbe_nz
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No it is not in Wellington.
It is up from Palmerston North if that helps.
Some one else may know more
Newbe
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hazelmoore
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Hi Newbe
No, it doesn't really help!!! Tomorrow I'll have to do a Map Search on N.Z. - as I have no idea where these people were living. I sort of imagined Wellington as that is where Rosina arrived!! Anyway, thanks - I'll have a go in the morning!
Good Night!
Hazel
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Williams (Llansanffraid, Denbighs and Bala, Merionethshire)
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Kibble, Dallaway, Miller, Batten
Herring, Rossiter, Rochford
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Lucy2
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Hi again Hazel
Hmmm ... hey, diddle, diddle. 
It's helpful that Newbe has found the burial record for Lilian Maud. 
In the meantime though, I've learned that the surname was apparently "DID-DELL" ... yes, hyphenated ... and of course some of the search engines, reject such names and finding records becomes difficult !
But I've found you some further information >> see next post.
Lu
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Lucy2
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NZ Deaths
1974 - DID-DELL - Lilian Maud - d.o.b. 30 July 1887
1965 - DID-DELL - Augustus John - aged 68 (bc 1897)
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1986 - DID-DELL - Francis Cyril - d.o.b. 24 February 1926
1990 - DID-DELL - Royce John - d.o.b. 9 April 1924
[Very probably, Francis and Royce are the sons of Lilian ? ]
These are the only references I've been able to find for this particular surname.
Also - this death ... (which appears to be for the wife of Royce John DID-DELL ?)
1967 - DID-DELL - Winifred Inez - 45 years.
[See the NZ BDM web link given previously]
EDIT : Correction made to year of birth for Lilian Maud DID-DELL - should read "1887" :
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Lucy2
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Cemetery Record (Cremation)
Totara Memorial Park Cemetery - Thames NZ
Royce John DID-DELL
died 13 May 1990 - aged 66
Ashes : At above-named cemetery
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