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Amanda36
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1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« on: Monday 02 November 09 23:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I seem to have two George's, one born 1835 (according to the IGI) and one 1841 (according to the 1881 census).

The father of George 1835 should be George born c 1792.

Any help determining whether I have one or two Georges would be most helpful.

Thank you.

Best regards

Amanda
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Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 November 09 23:33 UTC (UK) »

1851
CrossgreenOtley
GeorgeFlesherheadM 59 stone mason
Ann wife 59 Lincoln Lincs
Christopher son U 27 stone mason
jane daughter 19 Worsted mill Girl
George son 16 stone mason
Ellen daughter 13 Worsted mill Girl
John son 10

George and children all b Otley
HO107 2284 424 7

Suz
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 November 09 23:42 UTC (UK) »

then there is this george

1851
Cambridge
Otley
Yorks
Christopher Flesher Head M 55 Stone mason
Mary wife 56
Charles son 23 stone mason
Smith son 21 Stone ,mason
John son 17 Stone mason
George son 13
all b Otley
HO10 2284 506 40

Suz
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 09:23 UTC (UK) »

then there is this george

1851
Cambridge
Otley
Yorks
Christopher Flesher Head M 55 Stone mason
Mary wife 56
Charles son 23 stone mason
Smith son 21 Stone ,mason
John son 17 Stone mason
George son 13
all b Otley
HO10 2284 506 40

Suz


Hi Suz

Thank you for your reply. I wish my query was now answered. I expected a George born 1841. It's never that straight forward! Instead they are either side. I really should have asked for the 1861 as well to further narrow down the suspects.

Do you by any chance have access to that too please? Could I be very annoying and ask for assitance with the the two Georges in 1861, please?

Very best regards
Amanda

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Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 09:29 UTC (UK) »

Amanda, here is the Otley George Flesher

1861
RG9 / 3214 / 104 / 23
Cross Green, Otley

George Flesher / widower / 70 / Stone Mason
Ellen / dau / 24
Fred / Grandson / 2

I will look for the other Geroge and get back to you

Dee
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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 09:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dee

Thank you for your speedy reply.

I am looking for:

George Flesher born c 1834 Otley son of George

George Flesher born c 1837 Otley son of Christopher

Thank you.

Best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 09:36 UTC (UK) »

Amanda,

1861 Census
RG09 / 3213 / 31 / 7
Main Street, Otley

Mary Flesher / Widow / 66
Eliza / dau / widow / 44
Charles / son / 33 / Stone Mason
John / son / 27 / Stone Mason
George / son / 22 / Stone Mason
Eliza Whitaker / Grand dau / 12 / Scholar

Dee
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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 09:47 UTC (UK) »

Amanda, I think this is the George you are looking for.

1861 Census
RG09 / 3188 / 66 / 12
1 Lascelles Hall, Chancery Lane, Skipton

William Clarke / head / 40 / Carter           b. Grassington
Catherine / wife / 29                                b. Horton in Ribblesdale
George Flecher / 24 / Lodger / Stone Mason         b. Otley
John Holdson / 22 / Lodger / Stone Mason /              b. Otley

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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 09:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dee

Thank you. A step closer to the solution! Smiley

Best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 10:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Probly the confusion lies in the fact that on 1881 census there is (transcribed as ) George Flesher age 40 b otley - image clearly reads George age 46 so a mistranscription has helped confuse you.

so there is
1881
Otley
George Flesher Head< 46mason
jane 38bSkipton
Thomas 18
Elizth A 12
George 11
margaret7
Anderson 6
Christopher 5 (or3?)
John 2 (or 3?)
Sarah E 4mths


this is the familyin 1871
Cross green Otley
George Flesher HeadM 35Stone mason
Jane wife 29 b Skipton
Thomas E?son 8
Elizabeth A daughter 3
George son 1
all except jane b Otley
RG10 4304 33 30

Suz
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 10:30 UTC (UK) »

1871
Cambridge Otley
Charles Flesher Head U 44 Stone mason b Otley
George Flesher brother U 33 Stone mason b Otley
Eliza Phillips sister W55 pontefract

RG10 4304 59 4

this george looks like the son of Christopher in earlier census

Suz
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 10:45 UTC (UK) »

Here are the Georges in 1841

1841 Cross green Otley
George Flesher 45 stone mason
Ann 45 no
Christopher 15 mason app
Sarah 15
Ann 12
jane 9
George 6
Ellen 4
John 1
all except Ann b in county

Ho107 1314 10 47 19

1841
Cambridge lane Otley
Christtopher Flesher 45 stone mason
Ann 20
Christopher 15 tailor
Smith 11
John 7
George 3
John 51 Stone mason
Elizabeth 47
Allice 21
John 16 stone mason
Elizabeth 12 Worsted Mill
Harriett 9 Worsted Mill
Shaw? 6(could be Jhon -difficult to read)
Sarah 4

all b in county



Suz
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Re: 1851 Census Look-Up Please George Flesher born c 1835 or 1841 Otley
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 15:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Probly the confusion lies in the fact that on 1881 census there is (transcribed as ) George Flesher age 40 b otley - image clearly reads George age 46 so a mistranscription has helped confuse you.

so there is
1881
Otley
George Flesher Head< 46mason
jane 38bSkipton
Thomas 18
Elizth A 12
George 11
margaret7
Anderson 6
Christopher 5 (or3?)
John 2 (or 3?)
Sarah E 4mths


this is the familyin 1871
Cross green Otley
George Flesher HeadM 35Stone mason
Jane wife 29 b Skipton
Thomas E?son 8
Elizabeth A daughter 3
George son 1
all except jane b Otley
RG10 4304 33 30

Suz

Hi Suz

Thank you so much. You have definately answered my query now. As the 1881 census was transcribed incorrectly then the George, son of George and Ann, is the one I have been looking for born c1835 and not 1841 as per the census.

Thank you again.

Very best regards

Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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