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Topic: Ernest WATSON- reason for name change? (Read 572 times)
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sunshine18
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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the below is the transcription of the marriage.
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« Last Edit: Tuesday 03 November 09 11:27 UTC (UK) by Copyright_editor. »
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tropicalj
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Can anyone find George Joseph Nesbit WATSON on the Victoria index? he was meant to have been born 1887 BEECHWORTH Parents George and Muriel Victoria.
So after spending some time on finding this chap born to this couple ,
you now say
Ernest WATSON is said to be a bachelor from Beechworth, Victoria born in 1887. He is listed as a labourer, his parents are listed as Henry WATSON, labourer, Deceased and May YOUNG deceased. The marriage took place on the 13th May 1927 at Tighes Hill.
No wonder I couldn't find him try as I did for some time.
where did you get George Joseph Nesbit WATSON from ?
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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sunshine18
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I truly am sorry for any time wasted, I got him from the fact he was in the same general area as Hilda and didnt think until to late that perhaps she was no longer with Ernest at all, and I was chasing myself around in circles. I only just got the certificate today, so I'm still trying to get my head around it all.
*Rachel
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tropicalj
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Thats all right we have all been done the wrong path at some time or another and no doubt will be again 
Did Hilda and Ernest have any children?
Did you get the certificate from a trasncription agent or the NSW online BDM's
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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cando
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Thank you for posting the link to the Cert. Much easier that typing it out 
I can't find a birth for an Ernest with those parents. I wonder if he thought he was born Beechworth. He may have only been raised there. Have seen that happen quite often. There is no marriage for people with the parents he names and no births to people of those names.
Rachel we have all gone down the wrong path at times....all part of the journey of finding our ancestors. You had the good grace to apologise but really not necessary.
Cheers
Cando
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tropicalj
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I agree with Cando I can find no birth for him I have even checked later as it is possible he may not have been 40 years old, who knows if that is a mistranscription......... all sorts of possibilities spring to mind here 
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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sunshine18
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I believe possibly my great uncle Ernie(Ernest) could be a child of the couple and also my grandfather Ronald Arthur, based on his date of birth 1926 Waratah I'm thinking possibly he was an illigitamate child of the couple, but thats why I need to find Ernest WATSONS death, so I can get a transcription. Unfortunately my great grandmother Hilda died after the time when you can get certificates so I have no idea which child goes where.
*Rachel
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cando
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If your gt uncle Ernie or grandfather married before 1958 you could purchase a transcription of both their marriage certs which should show their dob's and parents' names.
Cando
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regross
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Hi,
There was an Ernest Lodge Watson born Henry Watson and Jane O'Donnell in 1878 in Melbourne, Prior to that the family had lived in Stanley and Beechworth, then Emerald Hill (sth Melb). They had 9 children in all.
I know this makes him 49 and too old but in all honesty this is the only Watson family in or around the Beechwoorth area with an Ernest. ( This is in the geographical area where I live so know most of the small town names etc.)
None that match at all to a May Young.
Nearest other family I could find was that of Ephraim Weston and wife Mary Jung in Buckland but that is a fair way from Bechworth and was in the 1860's and no Ernests.
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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sunshine18
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Thanks for that info Robyn, can you find a death in the VICTORIA area to an Ernest WATSON with those parents?
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cando
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Not him 
Marriage
WATSON Ernest Lodge b. Melbourne
GOULLET Florence Elizabeth
1903 Reg#3400
Death
WATSON Ernest Lodge
Father Henry Mother Jane Flor ODONNELL
At Parkville 73 years 1951 Reg#3479
I have traced Ernest Lodge and his wife Florence Elizabeth through the electoral rolls to 1942 and he was a Baptist Minister.
Perhaps a little more research needs to done before posting any possibilities. 
Cando
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tropicalj
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If your gt uncle Ernie or grandfather married before 1958 you could purchase a transcription of both their marriage certs which should show their dob's and parents' names.
Cando
This is a very good way to attack this problem,
There are two marriages listed for Arthur Ronald WATSON and I am assuming you would know his wifes name for she would be your grandmother, start with that certificate. Both parties give thier own information first hand so to be speak.
You can use a transcription agent in NSW for around $18.00 as compared to $28.00 charged by the registery and a lot quicker turnaround as well
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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regross
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Cando,
my apologies for not looking further last night before I posted but a headache intervened.
Must admit that this is not he first case I have noticed of missing births in the indexes.
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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cando
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Robyn I made the comment in my previous post as I have noticed a general tendency lately on the board, to post information that really isn't helpful...links included. I read all the links that are posted and many of them are not helpful at all in the quest to find good and useful information. I often wonder if the person posting the links actually reads them  Perhaps we should be encouraging others to use google as many of us do.
I along with many others, during our searches, find information that may be useful, and I can only speak for myself here, at least try to follow it through, before posting. I wonder if we really need to see others' "research notes" and then be told that it may not be the the right information/person anyway. All of this misinformation creates so many red herrings and causes unnecessary searching by others to either prove or disprove the accuracy of same. Is this good genealogical research?
I apologise to anyone who thinks I have 'spoken out of turn'.
I trust you are feeling better today. I certainly agree with you that there are missing registrations and most probably that is not only in Victoria....
Cheers
Cando
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