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diverden
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« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 10:44 UTC (UK) »
iam researching in to the howse family and my 5x grandfather richard howse in the 1861 census gives his dob as 1813 at a place called hupton worcestershire i have searched all over for hupton but to no avail if any one can help i will be most grateful. den
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Re: place name
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »
Hi diverden

Do you think it could be Upton as in Upton on Severn, Worcestershire? It may be that the accent made it sound like Hupton.

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Re: place name
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 11:08 UTC (UK) »
The image clearly reads Hupton. Have you checked nearby counties? I know borders have changed over the years, so "Hupton" may be in a neighbouring county today. I've never heard of Hupton though and Wendy's idea seems logical.  Cheesy
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Re: place name
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 12:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi
Do you have him in any other census?
I can't find them in 1851 and I'm not sure about 1871/81 - did he remarry to Fanny? There is a Richard Howse born Shipston on Stour.
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 13:44 UTC (UK) »
a big thanks to wendy ruskie and gardener for the fast replies,you may be right about upton on seven will look in to that more, as for the census i can only find richard in the 1861 so still at the brick wall at this time thanks again to you all.den
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 14:38 UTC (UK) »
I was just comparing:

1861
Richard 48
Sarah Ann 48
John 21
James 19
Sarah Ann 15
Jeremiah 13
Francis 11
Mary 10
Richard 7
William 5
Samuel 4

with 1871 Kingswinford
Richard Howse 58 Shipstone Worcs
Fannny ditto ?39
Richard ditto 17
William ditto15
Frances Lewis 15 
Samuel Howse 14
Susane Lewis 13
Clara Lewis 7

Marriage Mar qtr 1871 Dudley Richard Howse/Fanny Lewis
Death Jun qtr 1869 Stourbridge (Kingswinford) Sarah Ann Howse aged 57

If you think that fits together then the marriage entry should give you Richard's father's name and occupation which would help in tracking him down. The IGI has a bapt at Shipston on stour in 1812. It still doesn't explain the Hupton in 1861 - it may have been a case of poor writing! I'm not convinced that it is an "H" at the start as it lacks the squiggle at the start of the letter.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 15:42 UTC (UK) »
RICHARD HOWSE.
FANNY LEWIS OR WILTON.
Marriage, 13 FEB 1871. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »
WILLIAM LEWIS.
Father, WILLIAM LEWIS.

FANNY WILTON.
Father, CHARLES WILTON.

Marriage, 25 OCT 1855. Moxley, Stafford.
Husband Age at Marriage, 29.    
Wife Age at Marriage. 24.    
   
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 12:33 UTC (UK) »
a big thank you to gardener and jim1212 for your replies it looks like richard re married after sarah anns death when the certificates arrive this should confirm it once again a big thank you to all that have helped
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