cjstar
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Could anyone help me locate the wareabout's of my G G G Grandma she was born in Castlebar,Mayo
I have found her on the 1871 census , living in Rochdale ,Lancs.
She is 45 and has a daughter called Margaret, and Sarah also a son called thomas..
She is also bringing up her grandchildren in 1891 and 1911.
Looks like maybe her 2 daughters may have passed away?
If anyone can clear up for me was she in Ireland between 1861-1871 census.
Also i cannot find her husband at all
I would be grateful of any help regarding Ann Cannon
Many Thanks Lee
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aghadowey
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Is Cannon her married or maiden name? If it's her married name then birth certificate of children should list her maiden name.
Civil registration of births in Ireland began 1864 so there will be no birth certificate and first complete census is 1901 so you'll need to search for church records (if they exist) to find more information about her.
Her marriage certificate, if you can find it, may list her father's name and occupation. What about her children- were they born in England or Ireland?
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cjstar
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Thankyou for your reply yes i believe her surname is her married name
Her daughter was called Margaret and it says she was born in Ireland too.
Her other children appear to be born in Rochdale
So it looks like she was married in Ireland had Margaret then came over
The only thing that puzzles me on every census she is the head but she continues to have children but there is no mention of a husband. 
thankyou Lee
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Good news and bad news.
1881 census (www.familysearch.org) has Ann Cannon age 52 born Ireland occupation hawker (age doesn't agree with 1871 census)
daughter Sarah Cannon age 19 born Rochdale
Is this the correct family? Civil registration of births in Ireland started 1864 so it looks like there'll be no birth certificate for daughter Margaret. Registration of Catholic marriages started in 1864 so if Ann and ? Cannon married in a Catholic church there'll be no certificate and you'd need to search for church records.
However, the really good news is that 1881 household (if this is correct Ann Cannon I've found) also lists her mother Mary Barrett widow age 83 born Ireland!
It's quite possible that Ann's mother (and perhaps her father) died in England and it would also be a good idea to check earlier census records to see if Barretts are in Rochdale area.
Others in household are daughter Bridget Brierley and her family and Bridget's birthplace is also listed as Ireland. Bridget's husband was born in Rochdale so they probably married there and her marriage certificate should list her father's name.
All the above details depends on whether or not this is the correct Ann Cannon in 1881 census.
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cjstar
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Just found on the 1881 census that Ann Cannon had her Mother living with her and she was called
Mary Barrett she was 83 and also born in Ireland
Dont know if that help's
So her mother was born in 1798
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cjstar
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Just read your reply your absolutely on the right Ann Thankyou
So Mary Barrett was born in Ireland but looks like died in Rochdale area.
On Bridget's birth it would say her father's name is that right? 
Thanks Lee
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Bridget was born in Ireland before 1864 so there will be no birth certificate for her either but any of Ann Cannon's children born in England should have certificates.
IGI (www.familysearch.org) lists 6 children for Charles Brierley and Bridget Cannon (all submitted and would need to be verified but it gives you a starting point to search further. See IGI for more details-
1. Sarah Jane (1868-1956).
2. Anna (1869-1940).
3. Mary (1871-1912).**
4. Joseph (1873-1938).
5. Hugh (1876-1960).
6. Margaret Lucy (1878-1949).
** St. John's R.C. Church is listed with her entry so that might be the church the family attended in Rochdale.
Can you list the details of 1871 census and I'll see if I can find anything further back.
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dee melody
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1817 Census
RG110 / 4117 / 59 / 15
School Lane Tweddle Yard, Castleton, Rochdale
Ann Cannon / head / 45 / Cotton Operator b. Ireland
Margaret / dau / 20 b. Ireland
Sarah / dau / 9 / Scholar b. Lancs
Thomas / son / 6 / Scholar b. Lancs
Mary Barrett / lodger / 74 / House Keeper b. Ireland
James Rogers / lodger / 27 / Carter b. Lancs
Mary Jane Rogers / wife / 29 b. Lancs
Bella Rogers / dau / 2 b. Lancs
Ellen Schofield / lodger / 33 / Weaver b. Lancs
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMelody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo Mullens: Kensington, London |
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dee melody
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1861 Census - possible Barrett connection
1861
RG09 / 3036 / 68 / 10
10 Acorn Place, Castleton, Rochdale
Patrick Barrett / head / 24 / Joiners Labourer
Ann / wife / 22 / Cotton Factory Worker
Mary Barrett / widow / 63
all born Ireland
Dee
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMelody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo Mullens: Kensington, London |
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dee melody
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On the 1851 Census there is the following Barrett family + Carmon family. Is it possible that it could be Cannon??
1851 Census
HO107 / 2244 / 479 / 8
4 Moores Square, Castleton, Rochdale
Mary Barrett /widow / 53 / Lodging House Keeper
Michael / son / 24 / Labourer
John / son / 21 / Cotton Operative
Mary / dau / 18 / Cotton Operative
Richard / son / 16 / Cotton Operative
Patrick / son / 15 / Cotton Operative
Mark Carmon / head / 30 / Bricklayer Labourer
Ann / wife / 28
Bridget / dau / 6 / Scholar
Margaret / dau / 1
all state born BUFFAN, Ireland. I have never heard of this place - does it mean anything to anyone?
I cannot locate the Carmon family on 1861 Census, but am still looking.
Dee
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMelody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo Mullens: Kensington, London |
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dee melody
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Would it be worth getting the birth certificate for Sarah Cannon to see who her parents were:
Sarah Cannon / Rochdale
March 1861
Vol No: 8e / Page No: 18
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cjstar
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Thankyou Dee the Carmon/Cannon could be right there as the area they lived in Rochdale matches
It's a shame the census in Ireland dont go back further than 1901 as Ann would of already have been in England by then
look's like maybe Ann's husband either left or more likely Passed away shortly after coming to Rochdale.
Only way of finding Ann Cannon's husband seem's to be via Margaret's my G G Grandma's birth certificate. 
Lee
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Possible death for Ann- Ann CANNON (age 78) Jan/Mar 1911 Rochdale district (see Free BMD). Unfortunately if this is her she's probably missed being included in 1911 census.
Possible death for Ann's husband- Mark CANNON (age 50) Jan/Mar 1871 Rochdale district
Bridget Cannon (age 19) married 20 Apr.187 St. John's R.C. Church, Rochdale to Charles Brierley (age 22) (IGI- another submitted record)
Searching for CANNON in Rochdale district in Free BMD shows other possible family members-
Richard CANNON born Jan/Mar 1852
Mary Ann CANNON born Apr/June 1854 ?died Oct/Dec 1867 (age 14)
Ellen CANNON born Jan/Mar 1856
Sarah CANNON born Jan/Mar 1861
Joseph CANNON born Oct/Dec 1862 died July/Sept 1866 (age 3)
Thomas CANNON born Jan/Mar 1865
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cjstar
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Thankyou aghadowey
I could only find her on the 1901 census age 67 as she was bringing up my G Grandad aged 12
Joseph Cawley which was her Grandson and by elimination proccess we found that he was Margaret's son
Margaret Cannon married a john Cawley
Is this the right family you were researching
Fingers and toes crossed it is 
Lee
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