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MCCUE
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marrage look up please
« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

hi i am trying to yrace the marrage of thomas griffiths born 1805 cheshire and elizabeth smith born 1821, whitford flintshire i have them on the 1861 census that is the only one i can find them on i wanted the marrage details so i could sen for there certificate thank you so much margaret.
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LizzieW
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 16:27 UTC (UK) »

Where were they in 1861?  That might give a clue as to where they married.
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) -  Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
MCCUE
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 17:03 UTC (UK) »

hi they was living in cheshire there youngest son my grt grt grandad josephus was 3 weeks old he was born in cheshire they was living in the army barracks thank you margaret.
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lizdb
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 17:14 UTC (UK) »

This looks like the 1861

RG9 2630 12 20
Militia Barracks, Chester
Thomas 56 Pensioner and Seargeant Major Militia bn Chester
Elizabeth 40 bn Flintshire? Whitford?
Jane 14 dtr bn America
Rebecca 8 dtr bn Glamorgan Merthyr
Thomas 6 bn Chester
Josephus 3wks bn Chester

Looking at place of birth of eldest then a USA marriage is possible. And they seemed to spend some time on Wales too...
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LizzieW
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 00:29 UTC (UK) »

Maybe you could post the query about the marriage on the United States of America board.  I don't know if any Rootschatter in America would be able to help, someone did find 2 of my g.gran's brothers for me.

By the way I can't see anything on IGI of an American marriage, but that doesn't mean they weren't married there.

Another option would be to put something on the Armed Services board to see if anyone knows anything about the Militia being in USA that might give you a clue as to where Thomas went to.

Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) -  Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
kathb
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 07:58 UTC (UK) »

Margaret, have you tried the GRO Indexes?  It looks as if the marriage would have been about 1846 or a few years earlier.  Most (but not all ) marriages took place in the parish of the bride. 
It might also be worth googling to see what the army was doing in this period.
Many long serving men joined the Militia after retirement (as did one of my ancestors). 
The National Archives holds the service records for army personnel in this period.  The records hold the name of the Next of Kin, when they married and in most cases parents as well.   They are not on line and you would need to visit.
I hope this helps
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Su
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 21:03 UTC (UK) »

I'm trying to find them on a passenger liner to America but so far no luck.  I've looked on CheshireBMD and FreeBMD for a marriage and also on my own Marriage CD indexes and no luck.  I am wondering if they married in Wales?
I've looked on the 1850 American census, but again so far no luck.
I'm sure somebody will come up trumps on one of these boards.
Kind regards
Su
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LizzieW
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 21:43 UTC (UK) »

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I am wondering if they married in Wales?

Most of the Welsh marriages for the period in question are on FreeBMD and I couldn't find them there.  I see you looked on FreeBMD too.

Perhaps they didn't actually marry.

Lizzie
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BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) -  Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
MCCUE
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 November 09 08:45 UTC (UK) »

thank you fo being so busy on this one she also called herself  eunice as well as elizabeth thank you all margaret.
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LizzieW
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 November 09 13:04 UTC (UK) »

If she called herself Eunice when she married that might make the marriage easier to find.

Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) -  Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
MCCUE
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 November 09 13:09 UTC (UK) »

HI ON MY GRT GRT GRANDADS BIRTH CERTIFICATE HER NAMSE IS ELIZABETH SMITH BUT YOU NO WHAT THEY WAS LIKE FOR CHANGING THERE NAME THANK YOU MARGARET.
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have been contacted by a lady who is not a member of RC but saw your message and has asked me to post this info for you

It is a Cheshire Parish Register baptismal entry as follows:

Parish code CEJB

Thomas Griffiths  15.4.1855 father Thomas mother Eunice.  Thomas's occ is shown as Sergeant and address is Francis St
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 09:40 UTC (UK) »

hi thank you for your message stll not found certificate for marrage even with the name eunice thank you margaret.
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Su
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Re: marrage look up please
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 19:03 UTC (UK) »

The baptism of Thomas Griffiths in 1855 was at St. John Chester so that might be a starting point for a marriage.
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Jones Salford/Altrincham
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Timperley Warburton/Dunham Massey
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