Welcome, Guest. Please login or register for free.
Did you miss your activation email?
Sunday 29 November 09 14:12 UTC (UK)
Welcome Home Help Surnames Library Shop Search Login Register
Search Images 

Online
 
  First Name(s)

Last Name

 
News: RootsChat has moved to a new home RootsChat has moved onto a new server, so we may have a few teething problems.

+  RootsChat.Com
|-+  England (Counties as in 1851-1901)
| |-+  England - General
| | |-+  Durham
| | | |-+  Durham Lookup Requests (Moderator: sillgen)
| | | | |-+  pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 Print
Author Topic: pensions war hospital in Sunderland  (Read 366 times)
nasnas
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 8


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 21:43 UTC (UK) »

Does anybody know anything about the pensions war hospital, where it was situated.  Found it recorded on a death cert for 1921. And would any records of the person be available.  Thanks of any help.
Logged
stanmapstone
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 6589


My answers only refer to England and Wales


WWW
Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:14 UTC (UK) »

Grindon Hall had four wards when it was bought by the Borough in 1922, as a sanatorium, to which they added new wards in 1929. I can't find any reference to it being called "War Pension Hospital" but it is a possibility, unless it was part of one of the other hospitals in Sunderland.


Stan
Logged

Mapstone, Mapston. Sunderland, Somerset
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
stanmapstone
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 6589


My answers only refer to England and Wales


WWW
Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:36 UTC (UK) »

It would could be the Third Durham Temporary Hospital for Officers and Men, one of the many hospitals run by the Ministry of Pensions, in response to the continuing needs of the thousands of servicemen who suffered grievous wounds during the 1914-1918 war. In 1921, in the peak year after the first war, there were 67 Ministry of Pensions hospitals.


Stan
Logged

Mapstone, Mapston. Sunderland, Somerset
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
nasnas
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 8


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 23:18 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the information, the person on the death cert dies of gunshot wounds, in 1921, following his return from the war.  As yet I have not found any more about him.  Probably too late to go on a memorial.  But your info will be helpful. Many thanks.
Logged
Ecneps
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 13323


Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 00:16 UTC (UK) »

If it can be proved from the death cert that he died from war wounds, then the Commonwealth War Graves Commission may be able to help with any commemoration.  Two of us have recently been helping a rootschatter to find a soldier's grave for the same reason, the soldier also died a few years after the war ended, and I believe the rootschatter has been successful in getting the CWGC to help - the soldier is now officially on the roll of the war dead and his name engraved on a memorial  (see http://www.rootschat.com/links/07et/ )

You could perhaps contact the CWGC for information and advice on that:

CWGC website is at http://www.rootschat.com/links/07er/

their information leaflet at http://www.rootschat.com/links/07es/

Barbara
 Smiley
Logged

`There are two lasting bequests we can give our children -  One is roots - the other is wings`- Hodding Carter

Census and bmd information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Lincs & Yorks - SIVILLS PREDGEN    Norfolk - EBBS WHITEROD ZIPFELL       Sweden - JÖNSSON CRONBERG ANDERSSON      Yorks - SPENCE HIDE HIRD      Durham - DALKIN SELBY RENWICK
madpants
RootsChat Aristocrat
******
Posts: 2082


Old Pants for Mum44


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 11:09 UTC (UK) »

That is telling of the closure of the Ministry of war pensions hospital in Sunderland in 1923

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/pdf_extract/1/3251/695

http://rcnarchive.rcn.org.uk/data/VOLUME063-1919/page320-volume63-22ndnovember1919.pdf

This is a matrons appointment in 1919 to the third durham temp hosp

http://rcnarchive.rcn.org.uk/data/VOLUME070-1923/page205-volume70-31stmarch1923.pdf

This is an Asst Matrons appointment from War pensions Hosp. when it was closing in 1923

If it was the same place (nowhere can I see where in Sunderland it was) it must have changed names between 1919 and 1923
Logged

GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L
nasnas
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 8


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 12:25 UTC (UK) »

Thank you all for your replies it will give me something to work on.  He was my partners uncle, but he only knows vague family stories. That he was a Lewis gunner who was said to have shot in the spine on armistice day.  So I sent for the death cert, that reveals he was 22 and died of GSW both hips, ( I presume this is gun shot wounds), landacerous disease, and exhaustion.  I believe lardacerous disease is referring to Landry's disease - an acute ascending paralysis from the lower limbs up wards.  So if was shot in 1918 he would have been about 18, when he was injured.
Best wishes
Logged
stanmapstone
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 6589


My answers only refer to England and Wales


WWW
Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 15:10 UTC (UK) »

It would not have been Grindon Hall, it would have been one of the five VAD hospitals in Sunderland. I assume the VAD Hospitals were the same as the Pensions War Hospitals  Huh

For the V.A.D. Hospitals in Northumberland and Durham 1914-1918 see http://www.donmouth.co.uk/local_history/VAD/VAD_hospitals.html
25th Durham VA Hospital was Ashburne, Ryhope Road, Sunderland which was built by Edward Backhouse c1820, the house became the College of Arts and Crafts opened on 6th June 1936, and the gardens became Backhouse Park.

3rd Durham VA Hospital was Hammerton House, 4 Gray Road, Sunderland,
Hammerton 'Hall': see http://www.gentooconstruction.com/?Section=670&Track=/488/506/670/&resizer=2

4th Durham VA Hospital   Jeffrey Hall, Monk Street, Monkwearmouth, this was just a Church Hall.

20th Durham VA Hospital   St Gabriel's Institute, Kayll Road, Sunderland   Church Hall
11th Durham VA Hospital   Union Congregational Church Social Centre, Royalty Sunderland

Stan
Logged

Mapstone, Mapston. Sunderland, Somerset
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
evie
RootsChat Aristocrat
******
Posts: 1896


Barnaby


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 15:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have just been looking at a book I have on Sunderland.

It mentions five such hospitals, three of which Stan mentions and two others, one on Kayll Road and the other the Royalty.

It goes on to say in 1917 the war hospital of 500 beds was opened on Chester Road. Ashburne closed in 1919.

Evie
Logged

Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
stanmapstone
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 6589


My answers only refer to England and Wales


WWW
Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Evie,
Can I ask what book this is please  Smiley

Stan
Logged

Mapstone, Mapston. Sunderland, Somerset
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
stanmapstone
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 6589


My answers only refer to England and Wales


WWW
Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 16:44 UTC (UK) »

I would expect that the hospital on Kayll Road was the Highfield Hospital, later the Sunderland General Hospital, where some emergency huts were erected during the First World War, and the one at the Royalty was the Sunderland Infirmary.

Stan
Logged

Mapstone, Mapston. Sunderland, Somerset
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
evie
RootsChat Aristocrat
******
Posts: 1896


Barnaby


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 17:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Evie,
Can I ask what book this is please  Smiley

Stan

Hi Stan Smiley

Sunderland - River Town & People - A History from the 1780's to the present day

Present day would be 1988 which was produced by Sunderland Borough Council and supported by Vaux Breweries ISBN 0 947637 06 0

Evie
Logged

Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
madpants
RootsChat Aristocrat
******
Posts: 2082


Old Pants for Mum44


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 17:19 UTC (UK) »

Highfield Hospital (previously Sunderland Poor law Institution) is on Hylton Road, the General (a previous name was Highfield Public Assistance Institution) was on Chester Road and now is on Kayll Road and the late, lamented and lovely Royal Infirmary was on New Durham Road from 1867 - 1996

Where was the Royalty in Sunderland?  I don't remember it from when I lived there (and worked in two of the above hospitals)
Logged

GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L
evie
RootsChat Aristocrat
******
Posts: 1896


Barnaby


Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Madpants

As various buildings were taken over and staffed I think it could possibly mean the Royalty theatre  Undecided

http://www.eurotravelling.net/england/sunderland/sunderland_culture.htm

Evie
Logged

Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
stanmapstone
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 6589


My answers only refer to England and Wales


WWW
Re: pensions war hospital in Sunderland
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:04 UTC (UK) »

The Royalty is the name of the road that runs from Durham Road to Chester Road.

Stan
Logged

Mapstone, Mapston. Sunderland, Somerset
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Pages: [1] 2 Print 
« previous next »


[Copyright] [Shrink Link] [About Us] [Terms of Use]
All Census Lookups are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes only
RootsChat.com cannot be held responsible directly or indirectly for the messages or content posted by others. Inline images in messages are the copyright of the respective linked sites.
RootsChat.com, Europa House, Bury, Lancashire, BL9 5BT
0.054:22