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1891/01 look up please
« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:06 UTC (UK) »
I am trying to find out what happened to the following chappie


Thomas Goodwin born 1851 in Meopham, Kent.  He is the son of Thomas and Martha Goodwin.

On the 1881 he is a lodger in the house of a Marther(!) Munn.  He is aged 30 and unmarried and there are too many marriages after 1881 for me to be sure of getting the right one - if any.

I have done a search on the 1911 but can't see him.

There is a likely death on freebmd for 1901 but just not sure.

Any help would be appreciated.  Many thanks. R. Smiley
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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:18 UTC (UK) »
How about this??

1891
Chelsfield Rd
Crockenhill
Kent
Thomas Goodwin head M 40 Carpenter meopham Kent
Walter Goodwin Brother U 24 ag lab meopham Kent
Charles lee stepson 8 Crockenhill
Thmas Goodwin son 5 Crockenhill
Lizzie Goodwin daughter 3 Crockenhill
Maria Goodwin wife M 30 Crockenhill
RG112 644 89 23-24

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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:22 UTC (UK) »
Following on from Suzards posting

Marriage Thomas Goodwin to Maria Lee Sept qtr 1886 Dartford 2A 689. (Source Free BMD)

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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:26 UTC (UK) »
 Grin

Thank you very much for that.  I had just gone off to check that marriage too!  This helps me to fill in another little twiglet on the tree.  Very grateful.  R.
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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:29 UTC (UK) »
And here is probably his Death,

Thomas Goodwin Age 56   Dec qtr 1903 Dartford 2A 326
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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:42 UTC (UK) »
Parent's marriage

freebMD
Dec qtr 1850
N Aylesford
on same page
Thomas Goodwin
martha A Vaughan
5 629

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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:43 UTC (UK) »
Thanks but wouldn't that make his birth 1847?  I'd wondered about the 1901 death but now that I have a wife for him, I'll go and have a route around in the 1911!  Thanks again. R.
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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:46 UTC (UK) »
Hi again.  Thanks for that marriage.  The Goodwin tree is large and complicated and goes back to c1720. I have a lot of info on it but I am just catching up on some later ones who have escaped my attention. I thought I would smooth out some creases!

Very grateful for the interest.  R.
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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 22:54 UTC (UK) »
Dont rely to much on Census ages they can vary by anything up to 10 years or more over the life span across the censii. I dont think you will find him in 1911 if that is him died !903 I posted.
I haven't found him or Maria on the 1901 yet.
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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 23:32 UTC (UK) »
i am having difficulty finding them in 1901, too.

I found stepson Charles Lee boarding with a family

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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 09:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi again. The age of Thomas is correct as I have seen the baptism on Medway City Ark - isn't that a brilliant site?  I have been able to veryify most dates of the family through that source.  This is why I wondered about whether his death was the 1901 entry.  I was just checking the 1911 to make sure he didn't appear there - covering my back so to speak!


I am wondering if Maria died too and that is why they cannot be found in the 1901- there is an entry for 1896 - Maria Goodwin aged 37 Dartford on freebmd.  The age would be about right. What do you think?


Will try and spend more time on this later today- I am very grateful for your input so far as I was up the proverbial gum tree with him and it was difficult to sort through all the Thomas Goodwins.  Wish they had had more imagination in name that family - they're all called William or Thomas-the only exception was Valentine who was a dream to research!!


Regards. R.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 09:58 UTC (UK) »
It looks very likely tht you have found the death for maria

I can't find any of the children in 1901 - except Charles lee - so that is a puzzle???

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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 13:22 UTC (UK) »
Thanks to your posting of the 1891 census, and the pointer to Crockenhill, I have found young Thomas's baptism there!!   (courtesy of MCA of course)  Grin Grin Grin


He was baptised Thomas Henry so later today I am going to look at freebmd because I am sure there were some entries for these initials in the births and marriages!  Will also check for a marriage and other children.     Will report back!  Regards. R.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 13:28 UTC (UK) »
well done awaiting your finds

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Re: 1891/01 look up please
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »
Hi R,
      If the1901 death you refer to is theThanet  one ,thats not your Thomas as he is shown in Thanet with his family earlier in census .
     I still think the 1903 Dartford death is your man and the Maria death 1896 is his wife.

Dont forget the person is dead and cant confirm info given ,regarding their age, is correct.
  If you obtain the Death Cert (it only costs £7.00 from GRO if you quote the full ref) you might find one of the deceased's children registered it if its you Thomas.  Or a neighbour which you could then crosscheck on addresses.

     We probably cant find the kids in 1901 because they had been farmed out following mums death. Where Thomas was is still a mystery he may well be on the cessus somewhere very badly transcribed.
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