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tresario
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Hello
I would like any information on John Smith born about 1815/16 in Shifnal Shropshire. He was a tailor by trade. He married a Sarah ? from West Bromwich and later settled in Darlaston with his 5 children, Eliza,William, Samuel( my paternal grandparent) Susannah and Thomas.
I would appreciate any information you can offer
Best Regards Bernie
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judi2632
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Hi Here is the family in 1851
John Smith 35..Tailor..Shifnal, Shropshire, England Sarah Smith 38..West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Eliza Smith 10..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England William Smith 8..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Samuel Smith 4..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Susannah Smith 2..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Thomas Smith 4 Mo..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Fredrick Smith 15 ( Cousin ) Tailors apprentice..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Living at Catherines Cross
Piece: 2022 Folio: 77 Page: 36
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Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire Ghilks, Mansfield Jones, Wales Banham, Norwich Rothwell, Lancashire Tinks, Suffolk Shepherd, Lancashire
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tresario
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Thankyou for your help Judi, I already had that census information from 1851. Sorry I should have made my message a little clearer. I am particularly interested in John pre 1851 particularly where he lived in Shifnal and his family. His marriage etc.
Best Regards Bernie
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judi2632
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There is a look up exchange for Shifnal ( Pauline Pickering)
http://www.faulkes.co.uk/lookup/salop.htm.
May be worth asking for a lookup for John Smith
Regards Judi
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Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire Ghilks, Mansfield Jones, Wales Banham, Norwich Rothwell, Lancashire Tinks, Suffolk Shepherd, Lancashire
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judi2632
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Here he is in the 1841 all born in county..Note looks on the original to me that there all at the Bucks Head at Eaton an also should be 3 others listed above them
Edward Rowley 35 Publican Mary Rowley 45 Joseph Rowley 7
Martha Evans 18 F /Servant Benjamin Smith 18 ..M/Servant John Smith 25..........Tailor Lodger Sarah Smith 25 Thos Smith 20 Edward Edwards 2 John Cain 22 William Smith 22
Piece 912 5; Folio: 7 Page: 6
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Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire Ghilks, Mansfield Jones, Wales Banham, Norwich Rothwell, Lancashire Tinks, Suffolk Shepherd, Lancashire
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judi2632
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Removed posted in error
Sorry
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Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire Ghilks, Mansfield Jones, Wales Banham, Norwich Rothwell, Lancashire Tinks, Suffolk Shepherd, Lancashire
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judi2632
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This could be his christening
Parents William Smith & Susan
Christening of John Smith 17 MAR 1816 Shifnal, Shropshire, England ( Extracted IGI)
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tresario
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Thank you so much. I wonder what they were doing at the Bucks Head in Eaton?? I am assuming thats his wife Sarah, Thomas his brother??
i will take your advice and see what the Faulkes .co.uk has to offer.
Many Thanks
Best Regards Bernie
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tresario
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Hi Judy
Just to let you know I have emailed Pauline Pickering from Shropshire look up. Fingers Crossed and thank you so much for your help.
Best Regards Bernie
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Hello Judy,
If I wanted a birth and baptism certificate for John Smith where would I get that from please?
Regards Bernie
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judi2632
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Hi Bernie
Sadly that will not be possible because John Smith was born prior to 1837 when it became law to register Birth's Marriages & Deaths .
Prior to 1837 it was not a legal requirement, the only registers that would be available to view may be the church/Parish registers that would contain a copy of his baptism record, but I would doubt it would give you much more than I have posted before ie date Parents & parish.
Regards Judi
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tresario
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Thankyou for all your help. It is much appreciated
Best Regards Bernie
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judi2632
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Hi Bernie
Just a thought ...If you ordered one of the children's ( born to John & Sarah ) birth certificates that would then give you her ( Susans ) Maiden name . we could then find the marriage & order that cert which would confirm both John & Susans fathers names & hopefully an address as to where they lived prior to the marriage.
Births Dec 1848 Susannah Smith Walsall 17 233
The Certs would cost £7 each from here....http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
To make sure you are ordering the correct cert you can state that only if the father on the cert is a John Smith mother Susan, do you want it
If the details of the cert you requested do NOT match, you will not be charged the full amount. or sent the cert.
Hope that make sense Regards Judi
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tresario
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Yes, I have someone going on Friday to get Samuels birth and marriage certificate.
Thank you for all of your help Bernie
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