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cathayb
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tarling/roby
« on: Wednesday 04 November 09 11:52 UTC (UK) »
its cathayb here asyou know always thought i am a jew married to a romany.it has just come to my knowledge that my step father is roman y and i was therefore brought up by a romany aswell as living amongst them for the last 36years.
i recerntly had a nasty accident so have nt been around and my ancestry membership has ru n out so i am asking you all if you would mind helping me?
details i have are thomas samuel tarling married alice?.they had a numbetr of kids unknown to me at present but one was selina rose tarling b.sept 1868 shireditch london and she married arthur earnest roby b.1858 b ethnall gtreen thery married 9th june 1889.arthur died 1891 leaving a one year old son arthur herbert robey,on the cert i have both robey and tarling are down as travellers and hawkers?anyhelp greatly appreciated.thanks cathayb
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jaytoot
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 12:37 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathy,

nice to see you back on here.

I see on free bmd a marriage for Thomas Samuel Tarling and Alice Louisa White in Luton Dec qtr 1894. Probably them i suppose.
I'll try doing some census stuff now.

Follow up..........
Probably not them.... 1901 census has them living in Walthamstow thomas and Alice are both 31 years old with children with William Henry age 4 and Brice David age 1.

Back to the drawing board.

Regards,

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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 12:39 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathayb,

Sorry to hear you have not been well, get better soon.

I have done a quick search on Ancestry for Selina in 1891, not sure if you have this one?

Ref: RG12/189
51 Culford ?(could be Guilford) Road, Parish: St John at Hackney.

Selina R Roby, age 20, b: Middlesex, Lodger, Visitor.
Arthur H Roby, age 10mths.

The head of household was W Freeman, age 61, b: Middlesex, Occ: Cooper.

Is this the right one?

Can you let me know which census reports you need and I'll look them up for you.

Jane
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 12:46 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathay,

I had a quick look at censuses and BMD and I'm wondering if maybe you're mixing up 2 generations. The Thomas (Samuel) Tarling who married an Alice (Alice Louisa White, marriage in 1894) was the brother of Selina Rose. Both were the children of Thomas (also sometimes Thomas Samuel) and Mary Ann

1871 census
RG10/474 73 33
St Mathews Bethnal Green
13 Mead St
Thomas Tarling, head, 28, Labourer in Glass Works, b. Shoreditch
Mary Ann, wife, 23, b. St George East
Mary Ann, dau, 4, b. Bethnal Green
Rose, dau, 3, b. do.
Thomas, son, 1, b. do.
Mary Ann, mother, wid, 50, Hawker, b. do.
John, brother, unm, 17, Labourer, b. Shoreditch

 
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cathayb
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 13:00 UTC (UK) »
you have crackjed it girl!!!!!well done.i had two thomases but i didnt know which was which?so mary ann is our grandmother then and the other lots cousins?
janey j  your right aswell arthur earnest died when his son was a year old! when looking at the robeys i think you will find theres a matthew lough included somewhere and possible the father of the arthur earnest robey who died 1990.i gotta have dinner i will look back later.thanks a million
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 13:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathay,

1901 census, RG13/225
Parish: St Philips, Hackney.
Selena R Robey, Head, Widow, age 32,  b; Shoreditch, occ: Manfact' Chemist Packer and ***** worker.
Arthur H Robey, Son, age 10,  b: Islington.

Jane
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 13:37 UTC (UK) »
i know th ro beys made medical instuments those thsat werent hawking thast is!!!!they could mainly all red and write which shows some education.orginally before they moved to london they were all arounf essex particurly chingford.selina wa a chemist packer and a coster monger by the way!!!!!
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 14:10 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathay,
1861 Census,
RG9/266
19 Lower Dean St, Spittlefield, Tower Hamlets

Thomas Tarling,Head, age 45, b: Shoreditch, occ: Glassblower
Mary Ann, Wife, age 40, b: Bethnal Green, occ: Dressmaker
John, Son, age 7, b: Shoreditch.
Martha Ann, Dau, age 4, b: Spittlefields
Adalaide, Dau, age 4 mths, b: Spittlefield
Ann, Dau, age 4 mths, b: Spittlefield.

Wow twins...hope it don't run in the family  Grin it does in mine but luckily I missed out  Wink

Where would you like looked up next, this is fun helping for a change, I've hit a brick wall, so I'm giving my lot a miss for a couple of days.

Jane
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 14:18 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathy,

(PLAYING SNAP)

Again not sure if this is the same family.

1861 cens Spatalfields flower and dean street.
Thomas Tarling - head age 45 glassblower B. Shoreditch
Mary Ann           - wife age40 dressmaker B. Bethnal Green
John                   - son age 7 B. Shoreditch
Martha Ann         - daughter age 4 B. Spitalfields
Adelaide              - daughter age 4 mnths B. Spitalfields
Ann(e)                 daughter age 4 mnths B. Spitalfields

Jim
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 14:30 UTC (UK) »
Ok 1851 census Bishopsgate
Number 6 Thompsons rents

Thomas Tarling age 34 bead blower B. shoreditch
Mary A. Ewen  age 30 B. Bethnal green
Thomas Ewen           age 8 B. Shoreditch
James    Ewen           age 4 B. Bethnal Green
Sarah    Ewen           age 6mnths Bishopsgate


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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 15:43 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathay,

Do you know the names of Arthur Ernest Roby's parents, finding it difficult to sort him out from loads of other's.
Or are you OK with his info?
Get back quick, I'm getting into this now  Grin lol.

Jane.
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
cathayb
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 15:49 UTC (UK) »
wow!!!are you able to find me 1841? also that means if i am correct thomas as a first name runs right through for the ist son?am i reading it right.
what can you make of the robeys/robys?  arthur herbert ws selinia son born about 1890.his father was arthurearnest robey.bout in 1871 cencus he is down as a half son to matthew lough and elizabeth robey!!!!!!thats all i can find about them.and elizabeth was only 11!!!!matthew a widower was quite old. later i find arthur earnest is still known as roby with dad called matthew and mum elizabeth!!!
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 17:21 UTC (UK) »
Hi Cathay,

Could only find Thomas (1816) "wife" in the 41 census, no luck with Thomas so far, unless he was a butcher at one time, and married to a Ellen/Eleen.....lol

St John, Hamstead.
Mary Ewins, age 45, born in area, Straw Bonnet Maker. (Traveling Link)
Mary Ann Ewin (no "s") born in area, aged 15.

Mary Ann's age/place seem right, but really need to know her mothers name to make sure.

Off to look for the Roby's now, well after making grumpy's tea that is....lol

Jane.
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
cathayb
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:36 UTC (UK) »
thanks so much for what you are all doing.i am going to re subscribe to ancestry next week money perm ittin.in the meantime your making my old dad very happy.thanks alot
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cathayb
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Re: tarling/roby
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 20:59 UTC (UK) »
 mary ewins is right.the glass blowing was to make beads for necklaces and false eyes ffor the hospitsls!!!!!!theres your medicsl instruments!!!!!
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